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Milton Friedman: Legalize It! (The Budgetary Implications of Marijuana Prohibition)
Forbes.Com ^ | June 2, 2005

Posted on 06/02/2005 4:40:30 AM PDT by Wolfie

Milton Friedman: Legalize It!

SAN FRANCISCO, CA - A founding father of the Reagan Revolution has put his John Hancock on a pro-pot report.

Milton Friedman leads a list of more than 500 economists from around the U.S. who today will publicly endorse a Harvard University economist's report on the costs of marijuana prohibition and the potential revenue gains from the U.S. government instead legalizing it and taxing its sale. Ending prohibition enforcement would save $7.7 billion in combined state and federal spending, the report says, while taxation would yield up to $6.2 billion a year.

The report, "The Budgetary Implications of Marijuana Prohibition," ( available at www.prohibitioncosts.org ) was written by Jeffrey A. Miron, a professor at Harvard , and largely paid for by the Marijuana Policy Project ( MPP ), a Washington, D.C., group advocating the review and liberalization of marijuana laws.

At times the report uses some debatable assumptions: For instance, Miron assumes a single figure for every type of arrest, for example, but the average pot bust is likely cheaper than bringing in a murder or kidnapping suspect. Friedman and other economists, however, say the overall work is some of the best yet done on the costs of the war on marijuana.

At 92, Friedman is revered as one of the great champions of free-market capitalism during the years of U.S. rivalry with Communism. He is also passionate about the need to legalize marijuana, among other drugs, for both financial and moral reasons.

"There is no logical basis for the prohibition of marijuana," the economist says, "$7.7 billion is a lot of money, but that is one of the lesser evils. Our failure to successfully enforce these laws is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in Colombia. I haven't even included the harm to young people. It's absolutely disgraceful to think of picking up a 22-year-old for smoking pot. More disgraceful is the denial of marijuana for medical purposes."

Securing the signatures of Friedman, along with economists from Cornell, Stanford and Yale universities, among others, is a coup for the MPP, a group largely interested in widening and publicizing debate over the usefulness of laws against pot.

If the laws change, large beneficiaries might include large agricultural groups like Archer Daniels Midland and ConAgra Foods as potential growers or distributors and liquor businesses like Constellation Brands and Allied Domecq, which understand the distribution of intoxicants. Surprisingly, Home Depot and other home gardening centers would not particularly benefit, according to the report, which projects that few people would grow their own marijuana, the same way few people distill whiskey at home. Canada's large-scale domestic marijuana growing industry ( see "Inside Dope" ) suggests otherwise, however.

The report will likely not sway all minds. The White House Office of Drug Control Policy recently published an analysis of marijuana incarceration that states that "most people in prison for marijuana are violent criminals, repeat offenders, traffickers or all of the above." The office declined to comment on the marijuana economics study, however, without first analyzing the study's methodology.

Friedman's advocacy on the issue is limited--the nonagenarian prefers to write these days on the need for school choice, calling U.S. literacy levels "absolutely criminal...only sustained because of the power of the teachers' unions." Yet his thinking on legalizing drugs extends well past any MPP debate or the kind of liberalization favored by most advocates.

"I've long been in favor of legalizing all drugs," he says, but not because of the standard libertarian arguments for unrestricted personal freedom. "Look at the factual consequences: The harm done and the corruption created by these laws...the costs are one of the lesser evils."

Not that a man of his years expects reason to triumph. Any added revenues from taxing legal marijuana would almost certainly be more than spent, by this or any other Congress.

"Deficits are the only thing that keeps this Congress from spending more" says Friedman. "Republicans are no different from Democrats. Spending is the easiest way to buy votes." A sober assessment indeed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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To: mugs99
Then when it's legalized crack use is going to drop but you're still perfectly willing to let your family live next door to a crack house?

I can guess one thing; legalizing crack, smack and gak isn't going to totally eliminate their use and those users aren't going to suddently become CEO's and pay for their government produced drugs, food and shelter out of their six figure salaries.

But if what's left is all in your neighborhood and you're okay with it that's a plan.

261 posted on 06/04/2005 12:57:44 PM PDT by Proud_texan (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Ken H; mugs99; Know your rights
The real problem for the Prohibitionists is that the rest of the West is jumping ship.

America Headed Down Lonely Road In Its Drug Crusade

262 posted on 06/04/2005 12:58:21 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: streetpreacher
Legalize it and then let the trial lawyers sue the pot industry for the even greater rates of lung cancer that marijuana causes compared to cigarettes.

Except for reality, you got a plan.

263 posted on 06/04/2005 12:59:01 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: shellshocked

"Prohibition didn't work for alcohol so what makes people think it will work for any other drug?"

I'm still waiting for a rational answer to that question. I never have heard one which is why I had to leave the 'drug warrior' camp a few years ago. I have no great love for tobacco, alcohol, pot or anything else of that nature. A great deal of evidence for the 'badness' of each one of these things can be produced. But the 'badness' of something does not establish that it should therefore be a criminal offense. There are MANY things that are bad, but we wouldn't want to criminalize all of them. In fact, one of the great struggles in our culture is that there are groups looking to ban, restrict or criminalize pretty much anything you can think of. Fur, fat in food, sugar in food, not exercising enough etc.

Also, I think that more than a few pro-WOD posters want to portray everyone who is against the WOD as being a pro-drug doper. This is dishonest but since they can't answer the real questions, they defame their opponents. Shame on them. Prohibition was an unconstitutional disaster, but at least the policitians were honest enough to admit that they didn't have the authority without amending the constitution. Today they don't even bother to pretend to care about such things. Drug abuse is bad but the WOD is worse and even more distructive.


264 posted on 06/04/2005 1:28:44 PM PDT by vigilo
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To: muawiyah; Dinsdale
The theory of "stronger pot" is just a theory. You guys sure talk a lot about it, but it's the same old stuff.

Agreed, but hasn't it been the ONDCP which has been pushing that idea? Didn't they call today's pot the "crack cocaine of marijuana"?

265 posted on 06/04/2005 1:49:57 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
There appears to be a positive correlation between harshness of drug laws and higher rates of addiction

That's a fact, and there is not verifiable evidence in any country that drug laws lower or prevent drug use. The facts speak for themselves. Drug wars always increase drug use and violent crime. No exceptions to that basic fact in any country on the planet!
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266 posted on 06/04/2005 2:58:11 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: Proud_texan
Then when it's legalized crack use is going to drop but you're still perfectly willing to let your family live next door to a crack house?

Absolutely not. Holland solved that problem very simply...If your drug or alcohol use causes a problem for others, they toss your irresponsible butt in jail. We once had that law here. It was called disturbing the peace and it wasn't about loud music. But, that was back in the days when we had peace officers instead of law enforcement officers.
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267 posted on 06/04/2005 3:03:25 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: muawiyah
You are denying the value of knowledge and understanding of processes and materials.

You are ducking and weaving to evade my simple question: Exactly what alleged "experience" is it that suggests that just about everyone making an argument in support of unregulating drug use is an abuser?

We've learned a lot since your 79 year old mother first toked up.

My mother is 65 and never used marijuana. Leave her out of this conversation.

268 posted on 06/04/2005 3:03:50 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: muawiyah
Alcohol is required in many biological processes.

Name two.

269 posted on 06/04/2005 3:04:56 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, they've detected interstellar alcohol, but no interstellar MJ.

Should tell us something, and I can think of several things.

It tells us only that alcohol is a simpler molecule.

270 posted on 06/04/2005 3:06:12 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Proud_texan
legalizing crack, smack and gak isn't going to totally eliminate their use

Nor has criminalization. What's your point?

271 posted on 06/04/2005 3:09:51 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: muawiyah
there are fewer junkies out in front of my house now than there were where I lived 30 years ago!

Could it be ... oh, I don't know ... maybe your change of location?

272 posted on 06/04/2005 3:11:26 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, they've detected interstellar alcohol,

Can you provide a source for this?

Since alcohol is fermented, which requires living bacteria, I'm pretty sure this would be a very significant discovery and I don't remember hearing anything about it.

273 posted on 06/04/2005 3:13:12 PM PDT by getsoutalive
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To: Proud_texan
Think about how it would be to try and raise your kids in a situation like that [a crack neighborhood]. I don't see how legalization is going to help that situation.

How has criminalization helped?

274 posted on 06/04/2005 3:13:33 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Proud_texan
Think about how it would be to try and raise your kids in a situation like that [a crack neighborhood]. I don't see how legalization is going to help that situation.

How has criminalization helped?

275 posted on 06/04/2005 3:13:33 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Wolfie
We purport to be the leader of the free world, yet with five percent of the world's population, we have 25 percent of the world's prisoners, more than half serving sentences for drug-related offenses

What has happened to us? We were once known as "Land of the Free". We now throw more of our own people in the dungeon than the tyrant countries. The drug war has done as much to destroy the American way of life as any terrorist!
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276 posted on 06/04/2005 3:13:57 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: muawiyah
Look, if George Washington knew then what we know now there'd been a federal agency in charge of regulating lead based paint!

Rubbish; Washington's time had many ills for which neither he nor any other Founder advocated federal involvement.

277 posted on 06/04/2005 3:16:10 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: mugs99
The Chinese used ever harsher penalties including the death penalty to dramatically reduce their junkie problem, and did they ever have a problem.

Their dope problem destroyed their civilization and led to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people in the 19th and 20th centuries.

America will ultimately have to use the same methods the Chinese did to eliminate or minimize the problem.

278 posted on 06/04/2005 4:43:15 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: mugs99
You mean back before cops had guns?

Never happen GI.

279 posted on 06/04/2005 4:44:00 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Know your rights
You brought her in, and she was 72 at the time. I put in the 79 to see if you were lucid, or if this was just some sort of drug induced rant.

Guess it's a rant eh?

280 posted on 06/04/2005 4:44:59 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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