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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
So it was written by Shakespeare. It is still irrelevant and you still have not answered why someone doing a sex act in the privacy of their home in any way infringes on your rights to life, liberty, or property. You still didn't answer by what revelation you received the power to force other people to do what you think is right. You won't answer it because you know it does not affect you. Though you wish it did, because you are obsessed with the sex lives of others.

"and will as tenderly be led by the nose as asses are."

Sounds like you. You'll do anything the mob tells you. You are a mindless sheep. Unable to find one rational reason for anything you believe.
103 posted on 06/03/2005 9:21:01 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (There is a grandeur in this view of life....)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
...you still have not answered why someone doing... in the privacy of their home...

Marriage is a public act... and the original topic of discussion you initiated...

Who is he that is not of woman borne?

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You are a mindless sheep. Unable to find one rational reason for anything you believe.

Your ad hominem is an informal fallacy in logic, among others you have attempted. I also do not attempt to rationalize with such inductive arguments as you have (appeals to false authority, among others).

Biology does not require belief or human permission.

Simple Socratic questions (even though they may be borrowed from literary masterpieces you have obviously never studied) is a logically valid course of inquiry.

It is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of deductive argument and the use of logic, something you have made overt demonstrations to avoid.

As it is with the original topic of this thread:

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made "separation of church and state" a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices. Congress, state legislatures and public referendums have statutorily determined polygamous, pederast, homosexual, and incestuous marriages are unlawful. No Constitutional Amendment restricting marriage is required to regulate "practice" according to the Reynolds decision.

Marriage is a religious "rite," not a civil "right;" a secular standard of human reproductive biology united with the Judaic Adam and Eve model of monogamy in creationist belief. Two homosexuals cannot be "monogamous" because the word denotes a biological procreation they are not capable of together; human reproductive biology is an obvious secular standard.

All adults have privilege to marry one consenting adult of opposite gender; therefore, Fourteenth Amendment "equal protection" argument about "privileges and immunities" for homosexual marriage is invalid. Driving, marriage, legal and medical practices are not enumerated rights; they are privileged practices that require statutory license.

Homosexual monogamy advocates are a cult of perversion seeking ceremonious sanctification for voluntary deviancy with anatomical function, desperately pursuing esoteric absolution to justify their guilt-ridden egos. This has no secular standard; it is an idolatrous fetish. Why not properly apply the adjudicated Reynolds 'separation of church and state' here?

The greater question is if the Congress can pass a law defining what lawful marriage is without a Constitutional Amendment and the Supreme Court has said yes, upholding that power. Congress can pass a marriage definition and enforcement law under the powers conferred to it by Reynolds v. United States...

"…In our opinion, the statute immediately under consideration is within the legislative power of Congress. It is constitutional and valid as prescribing a rule of action for all those residing in the Territories, and in places over which the United States have exclusive control... Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices... So here, as a law of the organization of society under the exclusive dominion of the United States, it is provided that plural marriages shall not be allowed..."

[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]

The important aspect is the power of Congress and the state legislatures (not local municipalities or the courts) to legislate, by statute alone, restrictions on marriage. The Congress can either make lawful polygamy and homosexual marriage, or make both illegal based on what the Congress thinks will be beneficial. The Defense of Marriage Act by Congress and constitutional prohibitions by most of the states is consistent with these ends: Reynolds v. United States is legal precedent set by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Activist elements of the judiciary have ignored the case law precedent set by the Supreme Court concerning statutory law regulating marriage practices and corrupted the Constitutional 'separation of powers' by legislating from the bench. It is time legislative and executive bodies of government do their sworn duty to defend the Constitution. Legislators need to impeach and remove judges from the courts (and other officials from public office) who break the law by acting beyond their legal jurisdiction. This is not exclusive to an issue of "states' rights" at all…

104 posted on 06/04/2005 3:02:47 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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