Posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:15 AM PDT by veronica
Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.
Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?
Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.
That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.
When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:
1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.
2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.
So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.
Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist, and lawyer in Beverly Hills and Malibu, and author of "Ben Stein's Diary" each month in The American Spectator.
Many contend Nixon was trying to tie the DNC in with the VVAW which had voted on killing prominent lawmakers. In other words, if the burglars had found what they were looking for, John F'n Kerry would not be a Senator today.
Interesting, do you have any more info?
Yes he wanted power, as opposed to the original argument that Mr. Stein made that all he wanted was peace. Now c'mon, Nixon was not a Miss America contestant. Ben Stein's argument is a stre-e-t-t-cch. I will ignore your name calling. Nothing I said was arrogant.
Remember how the Old Media treated leaker Linda Tripp?
Indeed I do, and I made that exact point on another thread.
I love Ben Stein.
Sorry, Ben Stein, but this is a stretch. Nixon wanted POWER!!
Sorry, but Nixon had power. He was President of the United States and had been reelected in 1972 with an overwhelming mandate, i.e., 49 states (520 electoral votes, which was almost 97% of the total) and 61% of the popular vote. Nixon received a higher percentage of the popular vote than even Reagan in 1984.
It's still not certain that he lied concerning the third-rate burglary.
The reason that the White House "Plumbers" got started was to plug up security leaks (hint - leaks/plumbers!!) where sensitive intelligence information was being leaked out, some of it going directly to the Soviet Union.
Remember Daniel Ellsberg, who LEAKED the Pentagon Papers. Other information would get to the Democrats (sort of like having Senate Intelligence Committee meetings in secret, but the secrets would leak over to the Soviet Union ...)
Much of what the Plumbers were doing, while "questionable", was designed to protect our country's secrets (unlike Clinton's goon squad that protected his sorry little head.)
Nixon didn't want POWER .... he had the power he wanted as the President. He didn't want our country being sold down the river. He didn't want a repeat of the Korean War experience where Red sympathizers leaked military plans to UN personnel, who would then advise the Soviet Union of what the plans were. Nixon wanted to win the war in South Viet Nam, with honor .... but the Democrats in the U.S. would rather see us defeated.
BJK: Ben Stein is fairly accurate with his article. Your supposition is just plain mean . .. and wrong. If Nixon wanted power, he would have acted the way Clinton did (who wanted power to puff himself up) ... and he would have persuaded 1/3 of the Senate to hand tough and fight the articles of impeachment ... and he could have prevailed (like Clinton did). But he chose to do the right thing, and he resigned.
Mike
Lets launch an investigation into Felt's actions. Maybe we can take the traitor's pension away.
Wrong! As is your assumption of 'the killing fields'. Nixon knew the extent of the communist infiltration into all of our institutions. When he was forced to resign, in infamy, it was a communist victory. Your observation has been noted. What shocked Tricky Dick wasn't the extent of the communist infiltration into our institutions; what shocked him was the extent of communist indoctrination into the minds of Americans.
I'm the one who commented on your arrogance, not the poster you replied to here. Ignorance is now ahead by a nose, BTW & IMO.
EOM.
Mr. Nixon, having won the 1968 election in a squeaker, wished to manipulate the 1972 election to assure victory. Internal polling a year or two before the election indicated the only candidate over which he'd have a walk was Sen. George McGovern. Thus, the CREEP (Committee to Re-Elect the President) did what it could to aid the senator and harm his opponents.
In this, Mr. Nixon did nothing that Dammocraps haven't done before, and likely much less. But when it became apparent to the Republican leadership that Mr. Nixon had likely committed felonies, the Republican leadership informed Mr. Nixon that he had to go.
That is a critical difference between Republicans and Dammocraps. Republicans hold fast to the concept that the president may not be a felon. Dammocraps celebrate their felon presidents.
True, but since he claimed (and probably quite rightly) that Congress was out-of-line, he had a point. Nixon was lily-white when compared to LBJ and Kennedy. And concerning Clinton...let's not even go there.
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