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To: Youngblood

Animals have no rights and can never respect nor understand them. Animals are not human.

I believe we are to be good stewards of them.

You would, pardon the pun, "have a cow" if you realized people on farms have to kick away animals when mobbed by them. That is life, but to you animal rightists, it should be "subject to legal penalties".

No, it shouldn't be legally handled. Simply shame those who do what you don't like. Keep the law out of it.

Do you think our Founders ever kept their animals in what we would now think was a "humane" fashion? Of course not!


26 posted on 05/30/2005 9:12:59 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

ConservativeMind: "Do you think our Founders ever kept their animals in what we would now think was a "humane" fashion? Of course not!"

Do you think our Founders kept blacks in what we would now think was a "civil" fashion?

My philosophy RE: animals is that I aspire to the balance of Ted Nugent.

I love his philosophy, of how he only eats want he hunts, traps or catches. He does not eat store boughten "flesh" as he calls it. I try to supplement my diet with as much wildgame as possible but am not able to go outdoorsing as much as I used to due to my health.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0430_030430_tednugent.html


29 posted on 05/30/2005 9:39:51 PM PDT by arizonaconservative
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To: ConservativeMind
Animals have no rights and can never respect nor understand them. Animals are not human.

They feel pain and distress though.

I believe we are to be good stewards of them.

For the most part, yes.

You would, pardon the pun, "have a cow" if you realized people on farms have to kick away animals when mobbed by them. That is life, but to you animal rightists, it should be "subject to legal penalties".

I grew up on a cattle farm. Using a stick with minimum necessary force or giving a cow a kick in the right spot to move her on is not what I was talking about. A good farmer uses only as much force as is necessary to control his animals, and a farmer with half a brain knows that well-treated animals are much easier to control and handle.

No, it shouldn't be legally handled. Simply shame those who do what you don't like. Keep the law out of it.

I'm sorry, but that is insufficient for me. If you're a person who keeps bears in tiny cages to harvest their bile or starves and beat your dogs to get them in fighting shape, I really doubt if you're going to worry about some guy up the street talking about you. I'm perfectly happy to see my tax dollars used to punish such people.

Do you think our Founders ever kept their animals in what we would now think was a "humane" fashion? Of course not!

I don't see what the has to do with anything. I don't know if they abused their animals, and I don't care. The fact that such abuse as may have occurred may have been perfectly acceptable behaviour back then does not tie us in the 21st century to those standards. And I'd be pretty confident that the average cow chewing the cud in a late 18th century pasture was probably pretty content.

45 posted on 05/31/2005 8:57:39 PM PDT by Youngblood
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