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To: muawiyah
You are pointing to partisanship as constituting the biggest problem faced by the Senate as an institution.

No I'm pointing to partisanship by the masses as one of the biggest problems we face with the Senate. The Senate has set that aside long ago and they steal at whim, playing up only to the masses when it comes time to ask to be sent back to Washington every 6 years. The general public can't handle the complexity of many of the Senate bills so they find comfort in being labeled into one of two parties. Senators know this and play to that. The Framers knew this and set up our form of government accordingly. If popular election of the Senate were to be removed, that would be an important aspect to return us to a Constitutional Republic and less concern on which party (football team) currently is on top of the hill

Your continued statement of executing someone at the end of their term is not only childish but an example of the lack of understanding I have been speaking about from the general public on the Senate. To even joke publically about such a thing shows a level of maturity I would not want in someone voting for who should or should not sit in the Senate

64 posted on 05/30/2005 7:16:56 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
Why is it childish to point out that there would be no lack of candidates (of a caliber equal to those we now have) if we let them have but a single term and then executed them (which makes darned sure they don't return)?

You know very well that the men we have in the Senate, and the women for that matter, are the kind of folks who would trade their very souls to serve even one term.

Give them what they want!

Why do I suspect you work on some Senator's staff (or know someone who does)?

67 posted on 05/30/2005 7:24:52 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: billbears

I can't argue with your logic, however the Framers also had partisan problems. Madison denounced "Factions" in the Federalist Papers. Jefferson resigned as Secretary of State because of ideological differences with Hamilton (Treasury) over the Bank Bill and the "Report on Manufactures" which would have subsidized industry in the North East. Jefferson disliked the Bank which he said was set up to perpetuate the national debt instead of retiring it.


71 posted on 05/30/2005 7:30:41 PM PDT by AntiBurr ("Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam " with apologies to Cato)
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