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...and yet we are giving Pakistan as much, if not more support that the Chinese. Clearly, we are not influencing the Indians to move towards us. The announcments by both nations (China and India's) top diplomats speak for themselves and should concern us greatly.

I do not want to see this any more than anyone else...however, I will not say it cannot happen, when it is beginning to happen right before my eyes.

We, the US, need to be much more proactive in keeping it from happening by forging our own closer ties with Inida IMHO.

"We, the US, need to be much more proactive in keeping it from happening by forging our own closer ties with Inida IMHO."

Agreed. A number of factors cause me concern.

There is no love lost between India and Pakistan.
China's pact with India (and both are nuclear club members)
Pakistan (also a nuclear club member) is a strong US ally in the war on terror.

If Pakistan and India go to war, would China be drawn in on India's side? Would the US be drawn in on Pakistan's side? This possibility is all too real, IMHO. And what are the chances of a nuclear exchange with all 4 countries having nuclear capability?

It seems like the situation is a tinderbox waiting for a match.

...and yet we are giving Pakistan as much, if not more support that the Chinese. Clearly, we are not influencing the Indians to move towards us. The announcments by both nations (China and India's) top diplomats speak for themselves and should concern us greatly.

You have a good point, there are times I wonder if we are backing the wrong horse, Pakistan. I guess it is my skepticism of dealing with the Moslem world, we end up getting backstabbed there at some point. The other side of the coin is that if we back India, will she backstab us at some point? Maybe it is less likely but I am really concerned about something like this happening. I know I talked about this with my father and we both agree if we do get into a war with Red China alone let alone a possible India/Red China axis, we will have to resort to using nukes since we will have no choice due to the mass of humanity they can throw at us. Doubly so for the Russians, at least we have the luxury of having two oceans to protect us from invasion but they can just walk into Russia. I remember as a kid 30 years ago, my father said there we so many Chinese that if I started shooting a machine gun at an attacking force of them, I would die of old age and they will still be coming. If this happens, if I'm fortunate enough to get married and have a child/children, when I croak, they will take over and die of old age. B-P

I know Red China and India have fought wars so maybe we are jumping the gun a bit but who knows?