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To: Iris7; Lazamataz; Avenger; papertyger

Iris7,

I can't speak specifically about the Barrett 82A1 @ 2000 yds, but I have personally consistantly hit bowling pins at 1000 yds.Rig was a Maadi-Griffin with a 10X Tasco Super Sniper scope. Admittedly, this is not a military rig and is tuned for target work, complete with $4/ round target ammo, but my point is that the accurracy required to hit a man sized target at 2000 yds is certainly physically possible.
That said, I've been told that the 82A1 is not a particularly accurrate piece due to it's semi-auto nature. The military also utilizes single-shot .50s for long range work,

As to the question of whether civilians should be allowed to own/posess any and all military weapons, I'd like to put forth an argument I've never seen offered before.

The 2nd states ".......keep and BEAR arms.....".Webster's
defines the pertinant definition of "BEAR" as; (and I quote)

"1. to carry; transport"

Again, that is the only definition Webster offers that is pertinant to the usage of the word "bear" in the Second Amendment.

It seems that the FedGuv may actually have a basis for forbidding their subjects from owning/ possessing any arm that cannot be "borne" (carried).

That said, I am personally in favor of the citizenry's posession of destructive devices. I do think there have to be reasonable limits, but they should not be so low as to prevent the citizenry from being a viable threat to the Fedguv.

Papertyger, could you please direct me to the portion of the Constitution that states "You can't have a private army according to the Constitution". I had always thought the "militia" was origionally envisioned to be comprised of nothing but private citizens.


114 posted on 05/30/2005 5:39:38 AM PDT by misanthrope (There's only one way Islam will ever become "The Religion of peace", it's up to us to help them out.)
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To: misanthrope
It seems that the FedGuv may actually have a basis for forbidding their subjects from owning/ possessing any arm that cannot be "borne" (carried).

Would that include suitcase nukes?

116 posted on 05/30/2005 5:54:27 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81 MM Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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To: misanthrope
Papertyger, could you please direct me to the portion of the Constitution that states "You can't have a private army according to the Constitution". I had always thought the "militia" was origionally envisioned to be comprised of nothing but private citizens.

Article 2, Section 2 states: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States.

The milita is NOT a private army, but are subject to military discipline despite being drawn from private citizenry.

No military force is allowed in the United States that is not subject to the President of the United States.

126 posted on 05/30/2005 6:51:22 AM PDT by papertyger
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