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Ark of the Covenant's discovery imminent?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 5/28/05 | Dr. Kelly Hollowell

Posted on 05/29/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: webstersII

This is the wrong time and place for a dispute over eschatology. The issues are the discovery and typology of the Ark, not whether there remains seven years to the Jewish dispensation.


181 posted on 05/30/2005 7:52:17 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11

"This is the wrong time and place for a dispute over eschatology. The issues are the discovery and typology of the Ark, not whether there remains seven years to the Jewish dispensation."

I responded to what was posted.

If you wish to rebuke someone, then rebuke the original poster.


182 posted on 05/30/2005 8:01:29 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: pjd

The Ark was a type, a pre-figure or picture, of Christ (acacia wood symbolized His humanity, overlaid gold represented His deity, etc.). God laid down strict ordinances which the Jews were to follow when transporting from place to place. He did not hold others as accountable in following the laid out procedures as He did the Jews. In fact, prior to the rise of the monarchy (eg. Saul, David, Solomon, et. al.) the Philistines captured it in battle. They were not immediately struck dead as was done later to the Jew, non-priest, Uzzah, who dared to steady it as it wobbled on an oxcart.
The Philistines soon learned that whichever city kept the captured Ark, the people would be plagued with hemorroids. So they were anxious to move it from one city to another. Finally, they returned it to Israel on a cart.
Christ was the fulfillment of the foreshadow of the Ark and the Old Testament sacrifices. They are no longer regarded with the importance as they once were. It would be the same as giving adoration to a picture of your wife -- yet she is sitting across the room from you.


183 posted on 05/30/2005 8:16:01 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: webstersII

Sorry.


184 posted on 05/30/2005 8:16:49 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Oberon

That is very good advice. I am getting way too bit bitchy on this thread. It's time for a long walk.


185 posted on 05/30/2005 8:22:53 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11

No problem.

I understand that you want to keep the discussion going the right way and I will honor your request.


186 posted on 05/30/2005 8:24:27 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Zechariah11

You seem to ascribe to the heretical view that Christ had two beings, that he was a man who became God, rather than God who became man with both a Divine and human nature. Please correct me if I am wrong.


187 posted on 05/30/2005 8:27:26 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Oberon
I am well aware of the ark in question here and it's origins. I had been speaking previously about a passage in Revelation which also refers to "His" Covenant and the ark, there is obviously some ambiguity here.

1. Did John see God the Father and the stone tablets? In which case he saw the OT ark.
or
2. Did John see God the Father, and His Son Jesus Christ? In which case the OT ark is a non-issue. And keep in mind that Mary's care was entrusted to John and arguably he would have been very close to her.

188 posted on 05/30/2005 8:34:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Well, that's all well and good, but I cannot quite see the significance of John's vision to archaeological questions about the Temple Mount.


189 posted on 05/30/2005 8:36:50 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: dglang; Knitting A Conundrum

Dglang, how exactly then do you approach the verse from Luke that I posted (#156). Anti-Catholics seem to avoid this as a matter of course.


190 posted on 05/30/2005 8:40:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
The 3rd Temple ? They would have to destroy this one.


191 posted on 05/30/2005 8:54:18 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
The 3rd Temple ? They would have to destroy this one.

Notwithstanding that it's a mosque and not a temple you're looking at there...if the national will existed to wipe the Dome of the Rock off the face of the earth, I estimate its lifespan at about ten minutes from the time the decision is made.

However, it would take an event of truly cosmic importance to unify Israel to that degree.

192 posted on 05/30/2005 9:10:22 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: msf92497
Razing the "Dome of The Rock" may not be what such cultural Jews have in mind. There are many Jews that think that the Jewish God is the same as the Islamic Allah.

Hmmmm, let me restate that as, there are many people who want their god to be like Allah rather than to Whom Jesus referred to as Father.
193 posted on 05/30/2005 9:15:36 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child. "Seamless garment" is a stolen article from Christ.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

How many 500#ers would it take?


194 posted on 05/30/2005 10:52:51 AM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: Oberon
It has nothing to do with the Temple Mount.

There are three distinct Covenants in Scripture:

1. The Flood: God made a Covenant with Noah to never again destroy all living creatures. The ark carried the people and animals to repopulate the earth.
2. The Law: God made a Covenant with Moses and gave him the Law inscribed on stone tablets. The ark carried the law.
3. Redemption: God made a Covenant with mankind through the Death and Resurrection of Christ. Mary was the ark that carried the Lord.

It is plain to many that there are three Covenants and three arks.

195 posted on 05/30/2005 10:53:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
It has nothing to do with the Temple Mount.

Oh...silly me! I thought your post had something to do with the thread topic. My bad.

196 posted on 05/30/2005 10:56:26 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

No, I was originally responding to post #35, which had nothing to do with the thread topic.


197 posted on 05/30/2005 10:58:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I'm sure that we could get a work party put together.
I'll bring my Sawzall and wrecking bar.
Anyone else?


198 posted on 05/30/2005 10:58:42 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Zechariah11; safisoft

"The slaying of unbelieving priests who ministered is off as well"


Sorry .. you have the wrong person .. I never mentioned anything about "unbelieving priests".

Oh .. and by the way .. you and your tag-team mate are both rude. Who the HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ME "I'VE GOT TO HANDLE SCRIPTURE BETTER" ..?? Such arrogance!!


199 posted on 05/30/2005 11:16:05 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: wagglebee

No. I hold the orthodox view on the hypostatic union.


200 posted on 05/30/2005 11:26:57 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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