[FranceForBushInAustin]

I disagree. Every time the Government does grant a contract, it is a subsidy. There is no market value, just how much work can be delivered..... The output is not sold

[dervish]

"There is no market value"

Tell that to the pilot.

First no market value does not equal no value as a subsidy implies - something for nothing. There is a product.

Second, bids.

Third, foreign sales.