Posted on 05/29/2005 1:12:07 PM PDT by Betaille
French voters have rejected the proposed EU constitution in Sunday's referendum, according to an exit poll. The poll quoted by French TV gives the "No" side 55% - in line with surveys published in the run-up to the vote.
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Also I was reading few minutes ago that some EU super-bureaucrats were calling for other EU members to go ahead with the ratification/referendums despite the French NO. Do you think that EU super-bureaucrats are planning to cheat the rules and "impose" the constitution "forcefully" even if some members say NO?
As to the Euro, I did not mean that that would happen overnight but in time. In fact I do not see how it cannot happen. A currency without a country? will not work in the end. The "Club Med" credit problems may in fact tip it over sooner rather than later.
If Schroeder gets the boot it'll be interesting to see how the MSM will downplay his defeat.
Are you German?
Is there a vote scheduled in Great Britain on this or was Blair waiting to see what happened with France and Holland first?
"I think Bush should give Chirac a phone call now and ask him how his day is going."
LOL!!!!
ROFL!
This is a good day for Britain too. Now you don't have to be the bad guys and kill the EU Constitution. It is great to see Chirac lose like this and by such a large amount.
Yes, many French on the political left see the EU constitution as too "liberal" in the classic sense of liberalism--free markets and abolition of tariffs across national borders as capital moves freely within the EU member countries. To a socialist, classical liberalism is right wing.
To others on what is considered the political right of French politics, they see the constitution as a threat to national sovereignty and all things French. So there is this strange and informal agreement between the nationalists on the right and the communists on the left to reject the constitution.
Things that make you go hmmm, indeed.
I have no hopes of someone better than Jacque, but he's ticked me off so much I want him to tumble just for the pure joy of it. Ditto Schroeder.
Nationalists and socialists coming together. Hmmmm.
"If Schroeder gets the boot it'll be interesting to see how the MSM will downplay his defeat."
Here's my guess on how it will go: "German Prime Minister Gerhard Schroeder has lost his bid for re-election due to the failure of his capitalist economic philosophy. While he did oppose the US on some occasions, he was not considered anti-US enough.
Germany will now be governed by the reactionary Christian Democratic Union. Some are suspicious that the CDU is merely an american lap-dog, and will make Germany's economic crisis worse with their Trickle down economic policies that provide handouts for the rich at the expense of the country.
((((progress with interviews with various Socialist "citizens" that they claim are ordinary voters)))
Best news of the week.
One would be concerned though that Britain might vote "Yes" on the theory that the French voted "Non".
What a comeuppance for not only Chiraq but Delors too. The joke now is that there are apparently a majority of the French who agree with the Thatcher Bruges approach on Europe!
And how sweet is it that after the West divided on Iraq that Bush, Blair and Howard are doing more-or-less OK politically while Chiraq and Schroeder have both been humiliated?
It is such a repudiation, just not by the voters, but by circumstances. Socialism and one-worldism cannot survive the democratic process because there are too many interests that fight each other.
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