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The Economist-once labelled NATO's mouthpiece to rival the Pravda- can be safely counted on today to bring us the elitist, Euro-perspective on America.
1 posted on 05/28/2005 7:21:59 AM PDT by voletti
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Forget today's crowing about the ceasefire in Congress. America's wars of religion will get a lot nastier before any long-lasting peace can be declared—if ever.

There is "peace" in Europe only because the secularists won. It is a very shallow, dismal, nihilistic, empty, barren peace. And it will not last.
2 posted on 05/28/2005 7:29:15 AM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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Have we had any wars of religion?
3 posted on 05/28/2005 7:34:15 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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As usual, wonderful liberals can't help but portray anyone who's against abortion and euthanasia as being a religious nut.

I'm not religious in the least, and I find both immoral.

6 posted on 05/28/2005 7:47:20 AM PDT by Reactionary
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We've never had a war of religion you dumb_$$

(Directed at the article writer, and not yourself, unless you agree with him.)


7 posted on 05/28/2005 7:48:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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I thought it was a good article which described the culture conflict well.


8 posted on 05/28/2005 7:49:33 AM PDT by liberallarry
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What religion did we fight? Christians? Hindus?....

Reads like this squirrel had a deadline to make or else.
9 posted on 05/28/2005 7:49:54 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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I guess we should have let that religious fanatic Adolph Hitler pulverize Great Britain into oblivion.


11 posted on 05/28/2005 7:51:49 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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This is simple bull-s**t. It is the EUROPEANS that have a history of endemic religious wars! Hell, many of the colonists that came to North America were FLEEING the European religious fanaticism. Our founders were more than aware of this, and sought to allow for a yeasty exchange of religious ideas - yes in politics - because it is only in an open forum of debate/persuasion, and competition that actual social violence can be avoided. The libs want you to think that it is necessary to REMOVE the religious from the public square to avoid conflict, but in truth it is the opposite. Again, just look at European history. It was during the 30 year war that persecutions resulted when competing religious views were pushed underground resulting in a pressure-cooker of eventual violence.The Europeans have NO moral authority on this subject.


12 posted on 05/28/2005 7:52:29 AM PDT by Bull Man
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More opinion with a secular, Leftist, Eurosocialist slant.

That said, THE ECONOMIST is pretty dense with articles and, unlike US mags, light on advertisements. Its 'take' is definitely European. Its okay if you take it with a grain of salt and realize where its coming from, literally AND figuratively. It will keep you more informed about World Affairs better than any domestic rag. Subscription is expensive though.

14 posted on 05/28/2005 7:53:41 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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"Most European politicians would rather talk about sexually transmitted diseases than their own faith in God. The hugely bulky European constitution doesn't mention Christianity."

Europe has become 'a-God' to a large degree. Neither God, nor God-given values enter into much of what happens politically in Europe today. The European politicians and 'religionists' would impose their 'values' on us in the USA and continuously attack us for whatever faith in God remains in this country.

As to wars, Europe and the Middle East are the only parts of the world that have a continuing history of 'wars of religion'.


15 posted on 05/28/2005 7:54:04 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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"America's religious wars are only going to intensify."

Looks like wishful thinking, doesn't it?

In America, the relationship among the various religions has never been more harmonious, i.e. amoung the various Christian religions, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddahism, New Ageity, et al. Catholics, Protestants, and Jews get along very well and tend to be mutually supportive.

It is true that anti-Muslim sentiment, in various levels of intensity, is present. This too was non-existent before 9/11.

The real conflict in America is between the American people and the Left.

Secularism--or whatever you want to call it--is the religion of the Left. It is a sinister religion (by definition), based in large measure on atheistic Marxism and offering nothing but half-baked ideas, platitudes, confusion, decadence, a peculiar form of materialism, and suicide.

Maybe that's what these people at The Economist mean by America's intensifying religious wars.

Maybe that's what they're rooting for.

17 posted on 05/28/2005 8:02:35 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party: The Party of Sociopaths and Their (Mentally and Morally Retarded) Enablers!)
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Don't forget--The Economist is run by an American.
18 posted on 05/28/2005 8:03:30 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party: The Party of Sociopaths and Their (Mentally and Morally Retarded) Enablers!)
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The Economist isn't too bad but being British they typically have a axe to grind and they are VERY PRO EU to a fault.


22 posted on 05/28/2005 8:06:49 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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"Most European politicians would rather talk about sexually transmitted diseases than their own faith in God. The hugely bulky European constitution doesn't mention Christianity."

Doesn't THAT TELLL YOU SOMETHING?

Perhaps the Godless are not in good standing with God?

Maybe some punishment is happening?


23 posted on 05/28/2005 8:08:15 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Nothing more than the classic liberal view that "we are right and you religious nuts are wrong".

God help them, because they are in for actual religious wars when Islam decides to impose its beliefs on their countries.


27 posted on 05/28/2005 8:21:56 AM PDT by KeyWest
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I love how the author makes sure to say:
"The hugely bulky European constitution doesn't mention Christianity."
But makes no mention of the fact that ours doesn't either, thereby implying that it does, which further implies that we have religion written into the basis of our government. From there the inference is that that is why we are "religious fanatics."
You can say a lot with what you DON'T say, sometimes.


28 posted on 05/28/2005 8:26:00 AM PDT by NooGeye
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Why? Because people are attacking Christians.


30 posted on 05/28/2005 8:28:31 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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Europe has had a whole series of religious wars and persecutions. As far as I know, America has had none, throughout its history.

There has certainly been religious prejudice. There used to be signs in windows, "No Irish need apply," or "No Jews welcome." But there have never been organized religious wars or killings like the Thirty Years War, the British Civil War, or for that matter the French Revolution and the various Communist revolutions, which took great pleasure in exterminating Christians of various kinds.

It takes a peculiar kind of ignorant marxist mentality to call a quarrel over the rules of when it is permissible to filibuster as a "religious war."


33 posted on 05/28/2005 8:50:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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It's in pretty poor taste for Europeans to talk about America's "Wars of Religion," when we haven't had any such wars and they have. All in all, looking at the whole modern era, America's conflicts between secularists and religionists are pretty typical, and far from extreme or violent. What needs explaining is the weakness of religion -- certainly the weakness of religion in public life -- in most of Europe.

Similarly, America's division of powers means that the courts are constantly being asked to give firm answers to profound questions such as when life begins and ends. Europeans fudge these issues, by leaving them more often to parliaments to find political compromises.

That's an interesting take on things, but we've exported some of our judicial ideas to Europe. Some countries have Supreme Courts, as I believe does Europe itself. A deeper cultural difference is at fault, or maybe it's a question of timing: Europe made its arrangements on some of these issues before judicial activism became common or acceptable there, whereas courts have tended to have or take more power here, and were heavily involved when questions like abortion came under debate.

In Europe today, the courts, bureaucracies, and legislatures tend to be controled by the same political elite. It works together, and there's far less ability for ordinary citizens to influence the machine. Given the silence and passivity of the people, courts in Europe today probably could get away with a lot. That same impotence of the public, though, allows the ruling elite to have its way through other channels.

34 posted on 05/28/2005 8:52:06 AM PDT by x
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Religious wars?

Seriesly hugh.

46 posted on 05/28/2005 9:38:29 AM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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