[muawiyah]

So, who do you think they are, and is it relevant?

There are any number of instances where you can have a prisoner "down" and it doesn't mean a thing.

[swampfx]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6795956/

Graner was sentenced to ten years in prison.

He said he was following orders.

I believe in supporting the troops we send to war.

Based on the photo above, I believe him.