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Seventeenth-Century Islamic Brassmakers Were Far Ahead Of European Peers, Engineers Say
Eureka Alert ^ | 5-26-2005 | Kurt Pfitzer

Posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:44 PM PDT by blam

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I think the title for this article is intended to get your attention by contrasting Islamic and European.

Europeans were/are dumb, Islamists are smart.

1 posted on 05/26/2005 6:37:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.
2 posted on 05/26/2005 6:38:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The key word is "was".


3 posted on 05/26/2005 6:39:37 PM PDT by John Will
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Don't worry The Islamic world's last contribution to science was superior brass 300 years ago. I can live with that.


4 posted on 05/26/2005 6:42:09 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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In other news, the Muslim world lags behind America by 300 years. :)

Jeff


5 posted on 05/26/2005 6:44:23 PM PDT by MississippyMuddy (No peace, without FREEDOM!!)
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To: blam

Islamics are also way ahead of the West in crashing planes into buildings.


6 posted on 05/26/2005 6:47:04 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: blam

He probably just got a new one in Pakistan. It is still state of the art technology in Islamabad.


7 posted on 05/26/2005 6:47:38 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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Much of the Islamic world's so called "contributions to science" were ripped off from Asia. They lifted mathematics from the Indian subcontinent and metallurgy from China and Africa. The only original contribution of the Islamic world was Islam.

Of course, the idiot Europeans didn't go out and discover this stuff on their own and relied on stories from Islamic traders, so there's a lot of inaccuracies in the "general" historical records.


8 posted on 05/26/2005 6:48:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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More like 700 years.

Riding camels 100 years ago, oil was discovered. Lots of money poured in.

Now we have 13th century folks with arms. Thank goodness thier "book" forbids innovation.


9 posted on 05/26/2005 6:48:52 PM PDT by MonroeDNA ("Eat my body, drink my blood"--Catholics)
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OK, I didn't read this. Who cares? I bet it is just pro-Muslim propaganda. This is their claim to fame? Just wow!


10 posted on 05/26/2005 6:49:32 PM PDT by bboop
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Very well put!


11 posted on 05/26/2005 6:50:51 PM PDT by MississippyMuddy (No peace, without FREEDOM!!)
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To: blam

WHO CARES!!!!!!!!! they can ride their camels better too, but we Got Horses (dont spit on you)!!!!!!


12 posted on 05/26/2005 6:50:56 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (Massachusetts Republican....A rare breed indeed)
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"There is evidence that metallic zinc was being produced in Zawar [in northwest India] as early as the 13th century," says Newbury, "but we're not completely sure what it was used for."

Just a guess, but I have a feeling beheading people and other forms of barbarism would be among likely uses.

13 posted on 05/26/2005 6:52:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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And what did they do with these skills ?


NOTHING


14 posted on 05/26/2005 6:55:30 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("THE REDNECK PROBLEM" ..... we prefer the term, "Agro-Americans")
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Islam developed brass..... then went back to humping camels and slitting each others throats in an effort to further their scientific accomplishment.

When the Islamic inventor tried to market it and develop trade, he was beheaded.

Meanwhile back in old Europe, something called "not murdering each other" and "rule of law" occurred. Scientific development was not met with a call for humping a camel or throat slitting. Instead capitalism and "freedom and individualism" occurred.

However the Islamic inventors are hard at work, developing ideas and machines that will further their society......

a self cleaning ginsu knife,

under Armor vests with pockets to hold C-4 and detonators,

re-engineering automobiles in order to kill and maim as many innocent civilians as possible,when they explode.

New and different methods to murder including radioactive, biological and thermal/explosive devices.... those fun loving Muslims... jeez and of course .....

the Camel-ladder in order to have that quiet romantic desert rendezvous without getting dirty.

yep, everybody is more sophisticated, educated and enlightened compared with Americans or Europeans....

excuse me while I barf!

15 posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:29 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: MassachusettsGOP

I'm thinking it's time to assemble another Horde and go raid the Islamic world. The last time my people did that, we froze them in time in the 1200s.

Maybe we can kick them back to the Stone Age this time.


16 posted on 05/26/2005 6:57:44 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I work as an antique refinisher (Brass polisher) I know for a fact that while they may have been better 300 years ago, Indian brass is now junk. I can't stand when someone brings in a piece for refinishing and it says "made in India" on the bottom... 2 out of 3 times it'll be a pain in the neck to put a good shine on.


17 posted on 05/26/2005 6:58:46 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: blam

Yep, I sure seen a whole bunch of Islamic brass jet engines out there.


18 posted on 05/26/2005 7:01:06 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Spktyr

Im in!


19 posted on 05/26/2005 7:02:01 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (Massachusetts Republican....A rare breed indeed)
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To: infidel29

Hey...you ever do any sand casting?


20 posted on 05/26/2005 7:02:50 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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