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To: Aliska
I should have stayed off this thread

That is your first intelligent statement. You post a link from a UNION website, knowing full well it is a slanted socialist group and you expected people to think that this was an unbiased assessment? You have totally ignored posts from people who work at Walmart or have family members who do, you'd rather believe a union site. That shows me that your feelings lean to the left and you deserve all the criticism you have received.

505 posted on 05/28/2005 7:50:11 AM PDT by bfree (Liberals are evil)
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To: bfree
You post a link from a UNION website

Correction, it should say you agree with a UNION website.

506 posted on 05/28/2005 7:53:24 AM PDT by bfree (Liberals are evil)
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To: bfree
I'm pro union. When they get too powerful, greedy and corrupted, they deserve to be busted. Shops shut down, employees lose their better-paying jobs, and tax revenues are lost (they become takers in the form of unemployment rather than givers through payroll deductions). These revenues have to be made up from somewhere else to keep our bloated government afloat. I believe one in five Americans is a government employee in one form or another. The working poor are carrying a disproportionate share of the burden. They pay less or nothing in income taxes, but pay FICA at the same rate as everybody else.

Nobody in my family ever belonged to a union. Maybe one uncle did because he was a tool die maker; I don't know. It didn't matter because it didn't affect me. Now what happens in the broader spectrum in our society affects me because I don't have to keep up such a frantic pace to survive and have more time to reflect.

Some of you throw out your degrees in economics. Fine. I had one course in college, and it wasn't my strong suit. Therefore I fall back on my common sense and my moral convictions. Fat cats whose employees suffered under them are going to have a lot to answer for.

Unions gave blue collar people better wages so they could produce children with hope, see a way out of the cycle they were trapped in, help their kids go to college.

Everything isn't as black and white in the real world as some of you would have it. You only seem to care about what affects you. If you work at Wal Mart and are happy there, I have no problem with it if you are able to stay off the government handouts and have a decent standard of living. Most people who work there and millions of others like them in other jobs live from hand to mouth. Few of them don't worry about making the mortgage payment because they have little hope of ever owning a house unless they get one from another government-assistance program. They do worry about making rent and rent deposits. Low wages also contribute to crime. Why should you work hard to educate yourself when you can cook up some meth, get busted and go through the revolving door of our sham prison system?

I would rather Wal Mart reform itself without a union, but it is going to take some kind of external pressure for the working poor in America to be able to make a living wage whether the rest of you think they are worth a living wage or not.

If going union is the only way, I will help them get one going as much as I am able to do so.

All you people who are so maliciously criticizing me are only doing so because you seem to care only for your own welfare and the hell with the poor f****** who never had some of the opportunities most of you white people have had. This board is mostly white folks, including a few furriners, and a sprinkling of blacks and hispanics. It do make a difference when it comes time to vote. Do Republican politicians care if people make a living wage? They talk the talk, but do they really walk the walk?

Republicans are going to end up losing bigtime if these kinds of attitudes prevail. Compassionate conversatism my ass. Time, world events, and economics are not on their side.

Some of you seem positively gleeful in thinking you have made such a fool of me. Your getting your thrill for the day, now two or three days running at my expense makes you sadists in my book.

511 posted on 05/28/2005 9:30:41 AM PDT by Aliska
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