[TheBattman]

Farm Subsidies by another name are still Farm Subsidies - and they all are nothing more than a government handout or welfare program.

[PeterPrinciple]

Just like there was a report yesterday the we have overbuilt golf courses, we have overbuilt ethanol plants. I would not invest any of my money in it.

[.cnI redruM]

Bio-diesel would be far more intelligent. Then we could replace 100% of the petrochemical content in gasoline.

[clee1]

This Nation is spending itself, and our greatgrandchildren into the ground. Where is the goobermint going to get the money to pay for their special-interest largesse? The taxpayers... that's where.

It is way past time for the professional political class to remember that this country was founded in a tax revolt, and we are damnewd close to another one.

This time, it won't be tea that gets spilled.

[MNnice]

" ...but it seems Republicans are only too happy to preserve one of his legacies. As the Senate turns... to its uninspired energy bill, the majority party is busy passing an enormous ethanol mandate that would make even corn farmers blush."

Gee, that's funny.  Our Mininapolis paper ran a piece praising our democrat senator for being the driving force behind this.

Dayton to Pump Ethanol
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5423968.html

 

 

 

[OpusatFR]

You still need tons of oil, pesticides and petrochemicals, oil again, and machinary, refining, and trucking to deliver the ethanol.

I know we have some supersuper bright people out there who can think of something else.

[SunkenCiv]

Anything into Oil
by Brad Lemley
May 2003

Gory refuse, from a Butterball Turkey plant in Carthage, Missouri, will no longer go to waste. Each day 200 tons of turkey offal will be carted to the first industrial-scale thermal depolymerization plant, recently completed in an adjacent lot, and be transformed into various useful products, including 600 barrels of light oil.

Carbon dioxide turned into hydrocarbon fuel
16:00 02 August 02

Nakamichi Yamasaki of the Tokushima Industrial Technology Center in Japan says he has a process that makes propane and butane at relatively low temperatures and pressures. While his work still needs independent verification, if he can make even heavier hydrocarbons, it might be possible to make petrol. It has carbon chains that are between five and 12 atoms long - butane is four atoms long. The work suggests the tantalising prospect that CO2, the main greenhouse gas, could be recycled instead of being pumped into the atmosphere.

Ricardo expects new technology
to continue fuelling diesel sales
Anthony Smith
05 April 2002

At this rate, Ricardo estimates that diesel car sales will reach a market penetration in excess of 40 per cent in 2002 and 50 per cent, potentially, by 2005. In terms of major markets, France and Germany continue to enjoy rapid growth, with Italy experiencing more modest increases. Sales of diesel cars in France, Spain, Austria, Belgium and Luxembourg already exceed those for gasoline cars. The UK, which for six years has experienced a steady decline, witnessed a significant turnaround last year with a sharp rise in diesel sales of 39 per cent. Ricardo, which has pioneered much of the development work in advanced gasoline and diesel engines and monitors market trends on behalf of its many clients worldwide, says that improvements in diesel engine performance, driving characteristics and refinement are helping to drive the rapid growth of diesel engine sales across Europe.