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To: ArGee
Uh huh. How many heretics did Galileo burn at the stake?

How many Christians have atheists and non-Christians killed throughout the ages? Your question is no more germaine to our discussion than mine.

It most certainly is germane. Galileo did not "attack the church" with threats of condemnation, excommunication, jail, or burning at the stake. Such restraint was not observed by the other side of this argument.

They didn't react to his science. They reacted to his politics.

Good grief. Galileo was a personal friend of the Pope, and hardly one for stirring a political pot. It is one of the best known facts of history that they reacted to his science, massively. The publication of his book created such a stir that they had no choice but to crack down on him. No matter how "political" or intemperate Galileo might have been, it is a totally miniscule issue beside the publication of his book. Everybody, but I mean everybody, should know this. It is fact of history that manifests down through the subsequent centuries in so many ways that it hard to believe there is anyone in the western world who could really believe what you are putting forth.

only the churches--rather as is now the case with creationists and biologists.

Broad brush bigotry again.

I don't understand how this response even makes sense in the context we were discussing. But at this point, I don't care. Please concentrate on one thing at a time until you can produce a cogent argument with some legs regarding facts you didn't make up in a daydream.

352 posted on 05/25/2005 2:04:01 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh
Good grief. Galileo was a personal friend of the Pope, and hardly one for stirring a political pot.

This is not my understanding. I will go back to my sources and produce them for you. But it will not be this evening as I am about to leave and won't have any time to post any more on this topic tonight.

As for the bigotry accusation, it stands no matter what the rest of the conversation. To suggest that all creationists are bad and all biologists are good does not represent an open mind.

Shalom.

357 posted on 05/25/2005 2:11:17 PM PDT by ArGee (Why do we let the abnormal tell us what's normal?)
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To: donh

Check out my post #412.


423 posted on 05/25/2005 3:40:21 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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