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To: Right Wing Professor; Alamo-Girl; marron
So one of us is deluded.

HA! (quoting Chris Matthews). Seems right to me. :^)

So do you want to qualify evidence such that we might have an argument precisely about this matter??? How would we even begin to proceed???

(I shall be guided by you, should you wish to go further. Unless I see you taking me over a cliff, in which case I might protest.)

Good to see you, RWP. Thanks for writing!

1,722 posted on 05/28/2005 5:55:20 PM PDT by betty boop (God alone is Guarantor of an intelligible Universe.)
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To: betty boop; Right Wing Professor
Thank you so much for the ping, betty boop! It's great to see you on thread, Right Wing Professor!

If you guys decide to pursue this, please oh please, ping me to the discussion.

1,756 posted on 05/28/2005 9:50:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
So do you want to qualify evidence such that we might have an argument precisely about this matter???

Since my intellectual fulfillment is something only I can directly perceive, it seems I have an unfair advantage over you. I can proclaim myself fulfilled, and you'd have a hard time contradicting me. After all, if you said you were hungry, I'd be at a simillar disadvantage to prove you un-hungry.

I guess one could look at a representative sample of atheists, to see if they're showing behavior that would indicate intellectual unfulfillment. It brings to mind Weinberg's observation that most scientists care so little about religion, they don't even bother to call themselves atheists. That does not seem to indicate a yawning pit of intellectual angst. In contrast, I know many people who've drifted from religion to sect to denomination, out of dissatisfaction with each successive one.

What Dawkins meant, I think, was the evolution gives one a credible explanation for most of the world as we observe it. It gives us the 'how'. 'How?' is almost always a good question. Many people are looking for an answer to 'why?'; most atheists, I think, think the 'why' is meaningful only if there is a volition; and if you deny a deity, then there is no volition to puzzle about.

Likewise good to hear from you.

1,788 posted on 05/29/2005 7:04:52 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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