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To: b_sharp
Your logic is either nonexistent or it confounds all that try to decipher it.

The logic is impeccable so the confounding must be due to something else.

When you can come up with some sort of argument that doesn't claim that because of someone's disbelief in a god they must be a Marxist, you have contributed no more than I have.

You just made an assertion with no basis in fact. None, nada, zip. I mean, you like many others here, just seem to make up assertions as you need them. Not one poster with a different view of Dawkins than I have has commented at all on the substance that I posted including Marx's exhortations to ban religion and Dawkins views that religion is the enemy of rationality. When something is your enemy, it is extremely probable that if you were King you would ban it. It is my opinion, substantiated on this thread by the writings of Marx and Dawkins that both would have banned religion if they could.

In return, I have gotten the usual ad hominems, false assertions, foul language and accusations of bigotry against the Godless. All garbage. Such is life.

All I see in your argument is a non-sequitur.

Then you have willfully misread my posts and the references I provided. There is no other way around it. Your statement above is just another false assertion in a long list of them.

But you're a civil guy, I'll give you that.

1,351 posted on 05/27/2005 3:48:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Sorry for the delayed response. I've had a hard time lately finding time to spend on the forums.

My beef was with your poor logic in this particular case. The argument you used can be expressed as a categorical syllogism with propositions of type 'a'. When expressed this way it shows clearly that you have formed an example of the fallacy of undistributed middle.

All Marxists are atheists who want to ban religion

Dawkins is an atheist who wants to ban religion

Therefore Dawkins is a Marxist.

I will use the term strong atheist to describe those atheists that would like to get rid of all religion.

Major Premise - Marxist (distributed) < Strong Atheist (undistributed (middle term))
Minor Premise - Dawkins (distributed) < Strong Atheist (undistributed (middle term))
Conclusion - Dawkins < Marxist

If you meant that Dawkins' religious views are like those of Marxists then you are right, but if you meant that Dawkins is a Marxist, your argument fails to show it.

BTW whether Dawkins is a Marxist or not has no bearing on the validity of his views of biology.

1,923 posted on 05/30/2005 10:07:53 AM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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