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To: AntiGuv; Ichneumon; Alamo-Girl

I believe you might have over-focused on the suggested solutions to the intelligent designer question to the exclusion of the reason for asking such a question in the first place.

Since the data indicates that randomness is not a probably answer, then the right direction is most likely in some direction other than randomness. That suggests purposefulness and design....thence, intelligent design.

Hypothetically, as if you were concerned with answering the question, What would YOU speculate as the source of the intelligent design?

The problem, of course, is that our experience limits our speculations.


1,169 posted on 05/27/2005 2:46:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
I believe you might have over-focused on the suggested solutions to the intelligent designer question to the exclusion of the reason for asking such a question in the first place.

I am over-focused on truth, reality, logic, and reason. My specific focus in that remark was: Don't make false statements, and no, it's not OK to make false statements just because you're trying to be creative.

Since the data indicates that randomness is not a probably answer, then the right direction is most likely in some direction other than randomness.

Yeah, you're right. That direction appears to be evolution, which isn't random.

That suggests purposefulness and design....thence, intelligent design.

No, it doesn't. And even if it did, panspermia is still not a theory of intelligent design and the only religions that I'm aware of that attributed the development of life to "collective consciousness" were a few Native American legends, and they did not specify anything "intelligently designed"..

Hypothetically, as if you were concerned with answering the question, What would YOU speculate as the source of the intelligent design?

If life on Earth is the product of intelligent design, then some kind of transcendent deity is almost certainly the designer.

The problem, of course, is that our experience limits our speculations.

Yes, that is a problem, but the main problem is that there's no evidence of intelligent design, deities, extraterrestrial seeding, or an entity of collective consciousness.

1,170 posted on 05/27/2005 2:53:57 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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PS. And where I say 'no evidence of intelligent design' I am obviously referring to no evidence of speciation attributable to intelligent design other than human endeavor. Just in case someone (there's always someone) needs that explicitly clarified.....


1,171 posted on 05/27/2005 2:56:57 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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