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Creationism: God's gift to the ignorant (Religion bashing alert)
Times Online UK ^ | May 21, 2005 | Richard Dawkins

Posted on 05/25/2005 3:41:22 AM PDT by billorites

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To: King Prout
I'll let you have the leftover of the one I bagged earlier. want me to nuke it, or is cold all right?

That's okay. They're all mine anyway.

521 posted on 05/25/2005 7:04:39 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: jwalsh07
Maybe you'd like to comment on this section here. It's about the creationist love of ignorance.

The creationists’ fondness for “gaps” in the fossil record is a metaphor for their love of gaps in knowledge generally. Gaps, by default, are filled by God. You don’t know how the nerve impulse works? Good! You don’t understand how memories are laid down in the brain? Excellent! Is photosynthesis a bafflingly complex process? Wonderful! Please don’t go to work on the problem, just give up, and appeal to God. Dear scientist, don’t work on your mysteries. Bring us your mysteries for we can use them. Don’t squander precious ignorance by researching it away. Ignorance is God’s gift to Kansas.
I'll throw in my two cents. What he does not address is how creationists literally bludgeon with their own abismal ignorance (usually of science and/or logic but in some cases even history). Militant ignorance. The most relentlessly and militantly misinformed arguments around come from the creation/ID camp.
522 posted on 05/25/2005 7:04:49 PM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: jwalsh07; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
You're just a good ole southern blowhard.

cute. factually erroneous, but from you that is no surprise.
Nor is the fact that you neglected either to refute the analysis to which you replied or show the grace to admit you just got #wn3d.
Instead, true to your long-established form, you oozed out from beneath the anvil with the following:

I've debated you before Prout, you ended up crawling off mumbling about Downs Syndrome not being a mutation.

I have forgotten the technical name for this form of argumentative deflection. PH, VR... what is the above dodge called?

523 posted on 05/25/2005 7:05:35 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: VadeRetro

and of seven.


524 posted on 05/25/2005 7:06:34 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: jwalsh07
Proud of being an internet hero who uses foul language and makes stupid assertions behind the anonymity of the keyboard?

BTW, you're projecting here. You're anonymous. I'm not. You're the coward.

525 posted on 05/25/2005 7:07:03 PM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry

and a gold mine they are, too.


526 posted on 05/25/2005 7:07:20 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: VadeRetro
Ignorance is God’s gift to Kansas.

Wonderfully scientific.

I don't have a problem with evolution. I have a problem with guys like you who exhibit faux concern for conservatism on the evo threads and never show their face on the threads concerning conservatism having to do with conservtaism and the constitution.

527 posted on 05/25/2005 7:09:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: King Prout

501 / 3 = 167.

501 / 7 = 71.57142857.

;)


528 posted on 05/25/2005 7:09:20 PM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: jwalsh07
I don't have a problem with evolution.

That answers my question on what night it is.

529 posted on 05/25/2005 7:10:05 PM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer

I'm unsure exactly when and how stellar parallaxes were first observed, but my recollection is that it was not until the 19th century. That would've been very close to the invention of early photography so that may very well have been the prerequisite. Hmm..


530 posted on 05/25/2005 7:10:05 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: jwalsh07

I didn't give you advice. I made an observation.


531 posted on 05/25/2005 7:10:49 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: King Prout
jwalsh07 to you: You're just a good ole southern blowhard.

The guy is projecting, and it ain't pretty.

532 posted on 05/25/2005 7:11:15 PM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: King Prout
Your reply wasn't worth replying to. Dawkins views on religion obtain when Dawkins speaks of science and religion in the same breath. When he does, his views are subject to criticism. Preety simple, nothing ad hominem about it.

If you want to see ad hominem, just look at Retros posts, he's an expert.

533 posted on 05/25/2005 7:11:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: VadeRetro

exactly! it's PRIME, baby!


534 posted on 05/25/2005 7:12:34 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout
A PatrickHenry prime, yes. Out for the night.
535 posted on 05/25/2005 7:13:27 PM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: jwalsh07

You'd be surprised what threads we appear on. Do a search on Poster and plug in any of our names.


536 posted on 05/25/2005 7:14:07 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: VadeRetro
BTW, you're projecting here.

Right, in OZ.

You're anonymous.

No, I post under my real name. My first names John, presumably your's is Vade right?.

I'm not.

Yes, you are, you post using an pseudonym.

You're the coward.

:-}

537 posted on 05/25/2005 7:14:43 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

"his views" do not equate to the points he raised in this article.
"criticism" requires address to the points raised in the subject matter at hand.
ad hominem dismissal does not equate to criticism.


539 posted on 05/25/2005 7:17:28 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: AntiGuv

OK, gotcha.


540 posted on 05/25/2005 7:17:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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