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To: Txsleuth
BUT, his description of what constitutes a "foul" by the other side, is if ONE OF THE SEVEN CALLS FOR A FILIBUSTER--

He didn't say if any dem calls for a filibuster, just those seven, which means that Schumer, Reid, Kennedy, Clinton, Kerry, any of them can call for a filibuster and it wouldn't trigger an abuse, according to Graham....

But a filibuster can be ended by calling for cloture (what happened today on Owen) and in the event another dem calls a filibuster, these 7 have agreed to vote for cloture, unless they then invoke the "extraordinary circumstance" bs, in which case we get to see if the Republican signers say they're not acting in good faith.

Sidenote: I will not watch CSPAN2 play HRC so will rely on the thread to alert me when I should turn the channel back to the Senate.

1,772 posted on 05/24/2005 1:02:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Okay---I have seen several posters point out what you did, and it is true that in order to vote down a cloture vote, one of the 7 Dem weasels would have to break the agreement, so I was too upset, But...

this is the way I took it from Graham's interview, that we are not to worry, because the 14 weasels have made an agreement, so it doesn't matter what the other 48 do, THEY have it handled...IOW, it SOUNDS (not a fact, I know) like they have assumed the power over what the senate does from now on, re: nominations....

I just got me mad, that these 14, who basically did a coup d'etat of the Senate leadership, by taking the whole thing out of Frist's hands and gave the power to themselves...

I will try to calm down, but the more OTHER rep senators, like Santorum, Hatch, Specter, that come out and ENDORSE this group, it just makes me mad all over again....


1,809 posted on 05/24/2005 1:14:52 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: cyncooper
But a filibuster can be ended by calling for cloture (what happened today on Owen) and in the event another dem calls a filibuster, these 7 have agreed to vote for cloture

They only aggreed to do that for the Owens, Brown and Pryor. For Saad and Myers they committed to nothing. For any others they get to use their own judgement on "extraordinary circumstances", and they can do that without breaking the agreement. However the signatories also agreed, without such any such condition, to oppose rule changes for the rest of the 109th Congress. So if the 7 RINOs, or any of them, vote for a rule change, the Dims can legitimately claim it was the Republicans who broke the agreement. Nice huh?

2,380 posted on 05/24/2005 5:06:35 PM PDT by El Gato
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