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Live Filibuster Thread Tuesday
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| May 24, 2005
| AliVeritas
Posted on 05/24/2005 6:55:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas
FReepers be prepared for surprises today.
(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...
TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; ussenate
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To: EllaMinnow
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
2,302
posted on
05/24/2005 4:12:27 PM PDT
by
defconw
( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is a replay of this morning. Reid was caught off guard. This was good stuff.
To: EllaMinnow
You have my vote for "Post of the Day!"
2,304
posted on
05/24/2005 4:12:56 PM PDT
by
Fudd Fan
(red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
To: Primetimedonna
He is pressing his advantage!
Reid is whining and stalling!
2,305
posted on
05/24/2005 4:12:56 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
2,306
posted on
05/24/2005 4:13:48 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
Comment #2,307 Removed by Moderator
To: All
Sessions up again! Go JEFF GO!
2,308
posted on
05/24/2005 4:14:06 PM PDT
by
defconw
( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
No TV access right now, please kep us posted.
Thanks!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...
Replay of SESSIONS on C-span2 right now......just started...
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:14:18 PM PDT
by
OXENinFLA
("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
To: San Jacinto
Why don't WE filibuster the 14. Yeah. Our 48 start a filibuster that only stops when the 7 backstabbers withdraw from the agreement.
2,311
posted on
05/24/2005 4:14:23 PM PDT
by
TomasUSMC
(FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
To: defconw
2,312
posted on
05/24/2005 4:15:04 PM PDT
by
defconw
( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
To: Lizarde
Whoops....CSPAN Dropped into Replay mode!!!!
2,313
posted on
05/24/2005 4:15:20 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
Comment #2,314 Removed by Moderator
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I hear you, they are trolls as well?
2,315
posted on
05/24/2005 4:16:16 PM PDT
by
defconw
( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
To: BlessedByLiberty
Replay on now....not sure exactly when it started.....
2,316
posted on
05/24/2005 4:16:22 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
To: Peach; upchuck
Check this out; I think the freeper makes some good points. Let me know what you think. Thank for the ping, peach.
It is a great analysis. It seems to follow the logic we were discussing at lunch. A couple of points, with the bold excerpts from the referenced post:
- It doesn't make ANY difference if 48 other Republicans want to pull the nuclear trigger, if the seven vote against it. It doesn't make ANY difference if 38 other Democrats think the situation is "extraordinary" and try to filibuster, if the seven democrats vote to invoke cloture.
These two points are critical but always existed.
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At the moment, absolutely NO judge is in a worse state than they were before. The 7 republicans have not offered any votes AGAINST the candidates, nor have they agreed to SUPPORT a filibuster. Three candidates are getting votes who weren't before, and we didn't have to invoke the nuclear option.
This is what we discussed this morning. I agree.
- It is conjecture from the earlier post that the moderate Democrats did not want to vote for filibuster, but needed cover (the agreement). But it is certainly possible. It's just as possible, however, that the 7 Repubs would never have voted for the constitutional option. What is clear is that the pressure is all on the Democrats now to not force the issue through continued filibusters, becasue if they do, then the 7 Repubs will be in a difficult position to not support the nuclear option. Before the agreement, they could easily have voted against it. The signatories to the agreement will have to vote for cloture unless they can substantiate extraordinary circumstances clearly different from the three principal judges we have been discussing.
All in all, I can not find any downside to the Republicans at this point.
To: Cboldt
Thanks, ...I am confused...has the Senate adjourned for the day?
2,319
posted on
05/24/2005 4:17:49 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
To: BlessedByLiberty
Must see TV, but you didn't tell me what channel---help
2,320
posted on
05/24/2005 4:19:08 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
(Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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