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Live Filibuster Thread Tuesday
CSPAN ^ | May 24, 2005 | AliVeritas

Posted on 05/24/2005 6:55:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas

FReepers be prepared for surprises today.

(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; ussenate
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To: tx_eggman
Nope, again ... Dirty Harry agreed to give Owens a pass for an up or down vote .. 81-19 has nothing to do with the reality of the final margin .. that's why Cheney is waiting in the wings .. to break a 50-50 tie if it happens.

The poster you're mistakenly mocking was specifically addressing the dems filibustering, not approving. He was pointing out it gives a basis for the 7 Republicans to point to and say any future filibustering is baseless and they can declare that "extraordinary circumstances" do not exist.

Go back to sleep now

Time for your nap. There is no reason for your snotty tone when addressing an argument you disagree with that does have a basis other than "just because".

1,301 posted on 05/24/2005 10:42:25 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: maggiefluffs

Well we agree on a couple!

dopey GRAHAM
sneezy CHAFFEE
bashful DEWINE
sleepy WARNER
happy COLLINS
doc SNOWE
grumpy MCCAIN


1,302 posted on 05/24/2005 10:42:31 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
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To: johnb838

Yep, and this is just what we have right now.
Elections are supposed to have consequences: as in winner take all that they can. Seven of our winners, apparently prefer to act like losers.


1,303 posted on 05/24/2005 10:42:39 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Mo1

I call them : The Dirty Dozen + 2 ...


1,304 posted on 05/24/2005 10:43:10 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: onyx
Minority rules now. THAT is a fact, at this point.

And, sad to say, it will remain that way until the RATs regain the majority and not a second longer. Look at the "power-sharing" that Cave-A-Lott and Dashole set up in 2001.

1,305 posted on 05/24/2005 10:43:10 AM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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To: Mo1

Rush: the 7 nitwits made a deal. Frist did not make a deal; therefore Frist as head of the Senate CAN call in the nuke for each judge. Mission: DESTROY and RESTORE.


1,306 posted on 05/24/2005 10:44:01 AM PDT by Carolinamom (US Senate: UN on the Potomac)
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To: vollmond

Chafee was/is behind a lot of the trouble Bush has in getting Bolton confirmed too. I think we need to defeat him in the primary because he goes out of his way not to ruin Bush's agenda, and as a Republican he can do more damage.


1,307 posted on 05/24/2005 10:44:09 AM PDT by votelife (we need 60 conservative senators)
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To: You Dirty Rats
You know what's wrong here? You have taken one very vague comment about my anger towards the Reps as a party and turned me into a Frist-hater ready to kick him out of the state.

You can't reason with anyone that isn't paying attention to the converstation. So...I'm dropping it.

1,308 posted on 05/24/2005 10:44:18 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: ken5050


Just a guess, but maybe Arlen could see that the cabal was usurping his power on the Judiciary, since they've said they're going to "look over the names Bush submits."

Or maybe Arlen foud some Scottish law...lol.


1,309 posted on 05/24/2005 10:44:34 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: woofie
How much power does Frist have? Can he call up all the nominees for an up or down vote? Do they have to be done one at a time?

More powerful than a speeding locomotive. =:-O

He can call the nominees that are on the Executive Calendar, whenever he wants. I don't know if he can call them out of Committee - may look into that if the Committee becomes a point of action. Nominess must be handled singly for up and down votes, although they can pass on unanimous consent which avoids a voice vote too.

RULE XXXI
EXECUTIVE SESSION - PROCEEDINGS ON NOMINATIONS

  1. When nominations shall be made by the President of the United States to the Senate, they shall, unless otherwise ordered, be referred to appropriate committees; and the final question on every nomination shall be, "Will the Senate advise and consent to this nomination?" which question shall not be put on the same day on which the nomination is received, nor on the day on which it may be reported by a committee, unless by unanimous consent.

  2. All business in the Senate shall be transacted in open session, unless the Senate as provided in rule XXI by a majority vote shall determine that a particular nomination, treaty, or other matter shall be considered in closed executive session, in which case all subsequent proceedings with respect to said nomination, treaty, or other matter shall be kept secret: Provided, That the injunction of secrecy as to the whole or any part of proceedings in closed executive session may be removed on motion adopted by a majority vote of the Senate in closed executive session: Provided further, That any Senator may make public his vote in closed executive session.

  3. When a nomination is confirmed or rejected, any Senator voting in the majority may move for a reconsideration on the same day on which the vote was taken, or on either of the next two days of actual executive session of the Senate; but if a notification of the confirmation or rejection of a nomination shall have been sent to the President before the expiration of the time within which a motion to reconsider may be made, the motion to reconsider shall be accompanied by a motion to request the President to return such notification to the Senate. Any motion to reconsider the vote on a nomination may be laid on the table without prejudice to the nomination, and shall be a final disposition of such motion.

  4. Nominations confirmed or rejected by the Senate shall not be returned by the Secretary to the President until the expiration of the time limited for making a motion to reconsider the same, or while a motion to reconsider is pending unless otherwise ordered by the Senate.

  5. When the Senate shall adjourn or take a recess for more than thirty days, all motions to reconsider a vote upon a nomination which has been confirmed or rejected by the Senate, which shall be pending at the time of taking such adjournment or recess, shall fall; and the Secretary shall return all such nominations to the President as confirmed or rejected by the Senate, as the case may be.

  6. Nominations neither confirmed nor rejected during the session at which they are made shall not be acted upon at any succeeding session without being again made to the Senate by the President; and if the Senate shall adjourn or take a recess for more than thirty days, all nominations pending and not finally acted upon at the time of taking such adjournment or recess shall be returned by the Secretary to the President, and shall not again be considered unless they shall again be made to the Senate by the President.

http://rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule31.htm


1,310 posted on 05/24/2005 10:44:48 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Chafee voted no? He voted yes every time she came up for cloture before.

Good observation. But we know there are a few GOP who spit on the Constitution. Chaffee is one of them.

Basically, now that Chafee has cover, he is voting his true liberal obstructionist colors. This guy needs to go, even if it means a liberal Democrat takes his place.


1,311 posted on 05/24/2005 10:45:53 AM PDT by votelife (we need 60 conservative senators)
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To: woofie
I don't know much about congressional procedures but this is an opportunity. Get all of the President's nominees up for a vote asap. Roll them all out immediately while the "compromise" is in effect. Call the "extraordinary circumstances" bluff. When the Dems go to Fil-bust then GOP can claim the Demos are backing away on their deal. The DEMos are supposedly allowing the first three nominees go up for a vote and they claimed last week they were the most "radical" so why now these others can get a vote? You get the first three through then you open the valve. The GOP has them in a corner.
1,312 posted on 05/24/2005 10:46:41 AM PDT by rip033
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To: votelife

Officially he voted Aye, not that is matters!


1,313 posted on 05/24/2005 10:46:45 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Cboldt; Mo1
The deal has already been broken................IMO

Not Voting - 1- Inouye (D-HI)

A. Votes for Certain Nominees. We will vote to invoke cloture on the following judicial nominees: Janice Rogers Brown (D.C. Circuit), William Pryor (11th Circuit), and Priscilla Owen (5th Circuit).

Inouye is a signatory to the deal, the deal said they all would vote to invoke cloture, he didn't vote.........deal just got broke.

1,315 posted on 05/24/2005 10:47:34 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: grobdriver

You think that's something, you should hear the House on CSpan on the Stem Cell Research Bills.


1,316 posted on 05/24/2005 10:47:41 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: steveegg


Yep, thanks to Jeffords, Lott had to share the leadership with Dashole. This is so damn sickening and outrageous. It's awfully difficult to find GOOD in the double dealing of our side's seven, because every judge deserves an up or down vote, and all 100 senators know it.


1,317 posted on 05/24/2005 10:47:47 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Carolinamom
It's taken almost two hours but Rush is finally getting it right today.
1,319 posted on 05/24/2005 10:48:12 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: OXENinFLA


Are you hearing Arlen on C-SPAN now?


1,320 posted on 05/24/2005 10:48:34 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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