Woman Arrested for Having Crowded Car

Yahoo ^ | May 24, 2005

[Air Conditioned Gypsy]

Woman Arrested for Having Crowded Car

32 minutes ago

NEWHALL, Calif. - A woman was arrested after the California Highway Patrol officer who pulled her car over found nine people crammed inside, including two children in the trunk.

"I have never heard of this," said Officer Wendy Hahn. "There was no room left in the car, so she puts two of the kids in the trunk. We're trying to get people to buckle up, and this is what we find."

Lavern Dunlap, 35, of Glendora, was pulled over about 8 p.m. Friday after another driver reported seeing a woman closing the trunk of her Toyota Corolla with two children inside as the vehicle sat parked on a shoulder.

Dunlap told the officer she was heading to her sister's house in Palmdale, about a 60-mile trip.

The officer discovered a 15-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl in the trunk, four children in the back seat, an adult in the front passenger seat with a child on her lap and Dunlap behind the wheel. No one was wearing a seat belt, she said.

Dunlap was booked on suspicion of child cruelty and was released. She is scheduled to appear next month in court.

[ShadowDancer]

Mine have been in a trunk, and survived...

ROTFL

[verity]

Your diatribe never addressed my specific question!

[pageonetoo]

Do you drive 56 miles an hour in a 55 zone. Do you ever go 35 in a 25? do you make rolling stops at a stop sign, or squeeze the yellow, into a red, but keep going anyways.

All these actions are against the law, and endanger your passengers. Or, do you believe those laws are arbitrarily restrictive to you. Anarchy is an interesting term, which can be displayed in a myriad of ways, including disobeying laws with which you disagree. Of course, I'll giv e you the benefit of the doubt, and think that you never did those things.

Have you never broken, nor bent any laws?

I have never traveled with my children in the trunk. I think she was stupid to try. I have gone down the road with kids in the back of a pickup. Most of those, who owned pickups where I lived, did the same. Was she so bad, though, that you agree that she should have been arrested? Who was harmed, or injured?

she may have pulled over to let the kids exchange places, because some of them wanted to get their turn in the trunk. There may have been more to this story, but we don't know, do we? They certainly weren't hostages.

All we know is that some busybody called 911, and told the LEO's there were children in danger. They may have been, but they didn't have anything bad happen to them, did they (other than watching mom get cuffed and harrassed).

Have a nice day. I gotta go pick up some kids. I've got a BIGGGGGGGGGG trunk in my Lincoln! I could probably carry all nine in there!

[pageonetoo]

My first sentence was replied to you, but you must not have understood my point.
The gubmint isn't responsible for my safety, nor my kids, no matter how much you want them to be...

[verity]

Ah, gee.

Are you going to comply with the law or pay the $86 every time you are caught violating the law?

[jaj_dad]

The gubmint isn't responsible for my safety

OK, I'll let you go on that one - you want to assume the risk, that's your privilege

nor my kids, no matter how much you want them to be...

But you're wrong here. I think even you'll agree that it is the community's job (read LEO) to protect members of the community from other members. That includes protecting children from their parents if needed. I'm not a fan of kids in the back of pickups, but I don't find it completely unreasonable, either. Putting children in a car trunk? Over the top, IMO. If you truly believe that a child's safety is solely the responsibility of the parent, then what's your opionon on child abuse (real stuff, not corporal punishment)? Do you honestly think that the community has no right to protect the child?

[shekkian]

The gubmint isn't responsible for my safety, nor my kids, no matter how much you want them to be...

So child abuse and infanticide should be totally legal?

[pageonetoo]

Do you honestly think that the community has no right to protect the child?

We disagree on what it means to "protect"... You must mean "insulate".

And, yes, I do sorta find it hard to find in my copy of the Constitution. Most of it had to do with personal rights, and family rights. Those are things that few people acknowledge, these days. Can you imagine, people used to beat the crap out of their kids, with their hands, switches and belts... and nobody got sent to jail! The high school I graduated from, had a "board of education" with holes drilled. It was wielded by Mr. Fred Capps, RIP, and hit my butt just once.

Why is it your business, if my kid rides his bike into the street, and gets creamed by oncoming traffic? Why is it your business, if I decide to go to the beach, and leave my child out in the sunlight, all day, to get third-degree burned? Should I go to jail, for any of these actions? You apparently think they must. They endanger children. Got to make somebody pay, "for the chil'run"!

You must want a nanny state. I have no problem with prosecuting those who actually do harm. I can't be the guy to decide, though, who gets split by the sword...

WE have an obligation to prosecute criminals. Our 'feel good' nanny state requires us to give our prisoners cable tv and rec rooms. What's wrong with rocks and sledge hammers? Rape was a capital crime, and was punishable by death. Now, a murderer gets a 2 year sentence, and rapists are realeased and repeating their crimes, and repeating their crimes, and repeating their crimes, then escaping back to Mexico.

Of course, on such a high profile thing, lots of energy and money is wasted. But, a crime was committed. It was not an intention, not a thought, nor a plan...

Send your kids to public schools, so they can learn sex-ed, get drugged into oblivion, and have their 'feelings' reinforced. Keep supporting your local sherriff, with his "Click it or Ticket" campaign. Don't fight it. It's a "law we can live with" (that really enhances the gubmints bottom line)....

A father was arrested for kidnapping the other day, I read. He objected to the guy that wanted to screw date his daughter, and there was no law to help him. He is in jail, now, and the guy can have at her, as often as she can get an abortion! They don't have to ask Pop!

I can empathize. I have three daughters. There have been a number of young 'suitors' whom I have discouraged... And I would do whatever it takes to protect them from predators.

I teach mine how to drive a race car, and shoot a gun. I teach them to stand in the face of the enemy, and kick the guy in the balls.

I tell them to not listen to fools, and shout back at the witch, "we're not your village idiots"!

Are you?

PS- I do not equate LEO with COMMUNITY. They are officers of the law, only. It is their job to SERVE and PROTECT. I think that means from "life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness!

[pageonetoo]

Are you going to comply with the law or pay the $86 every time you are caught violating the law?

Where did I say I didn't wear a seat belt. Mine are 4-pointers. How about yours?

You're not as cute, in the sunlight!

[verity]

Getting an answer out of you has been difficult work.

[festus]

I rode in the trunk as a kid once. My bike broke and a woman gave me a lift. The bike didn't fit well in the trunk, being concerned it might fall out I rode back there and held it in.

True story.

True stories of the state of Florida.

[pageonetoo]

Getting an answer out of you has been difficult work.

Getting a post from you has been a waste of time. You try to be cutesy, but you're not as smart as you try to appear...

I sure haven't seen your wisdom expressed, just posturing, and posing!

So long....

[verity]

I called you out on your blustering and now you're pissed.

[pageonetoo]

bluster on. You ain't called out nothing. I'm not pissed, just amused at your ridiculous claim to be an arbiter of truth...

You ask a question, get a reply, then can't even figure out it's been answered. hmmmmm...

you're funny!

Here's your trophy for a job well done!

[DugwayDuke]

"two of the kids in the trunk"

This could have been avoided if the driver had considered duct tape. It's also a good substitute for seat belts too.

[verity]

Was it tiring for you to pose for that sculpture?

[pageonetoo]

Was it tiring for you to pose for that sculpture?

No, I just googled verity, and got that!

[verity]

With your continued sophomoric responses, you can have the last word.

[pageonetoo]

With your continued sophomoric responses, you can have the last word.

With your continued puerile responses, you can have the last word.

[verity]

Word!