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Fox: 730pm Press Conference to Announce Filibuster Compromise

Posted on 05/23/2005 4:18:39 PM PDT by jern

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To: nopardons

"Not "thanks to people like me", at all, pet."

The last thing I am is your pet. End of any "conversation" we may have been having. You are a depressing pitbull who won't let go of any given topic, but I will. Seek out your own kind to wallow with. There's plenty around. Ta ta.


2,461 posted on 05/24/2005 1:45:32 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: maxter
Please see an internist, your guts are lying to you. I wish that I were wrong ( and if I am, I'll apologize to you !), but I doubt that I am.
2,462 posted on 05/24/2005 1:46:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: wardaddy
Yes, you have, on many occasions! :-)
2,463 posted on 05/24/2005 1:48:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: R. Scott
So do I.

I don't know what former Governer Gilmore is doing these days, but he would make a great successor in that office.

Rep. Schrock would probably be my second choice.

2,464 posted on 05/24/2005 1:51:00 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("What in the world happened to Gerard's tag-line?")
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To: flaglady47

When you do. :-)


2,465 posted on 05/24/2005 1:51:09 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: flaglady47
Gee, you don't even make sense in the daytime. And here I was being charitable, thinking that your style was due to lack of sleep.

Bye bye............

2,466 posted on 05/24/2005 1:52:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

In the 1960s, Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen came into the Oval Office and helped LBJ pick bombing targets. That guaranteed GOP support for the unpopular Vietnam War. LBJ once told the late John G. Tower that Tower had given him more help with the war than "my entire damned party." The two parties always find ways to get together, and it is always the GOP that comes up short, isn't it?


2,467 posted on 05/24/2005 4:02:44 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I do not dislike or disrespect Sen. Dole at all; rather I admire him. He is a real, almost unsung war hero (as contrasted with you know whom) and I do not disagree with you as far as his being principled is concerned. He was the best leader we could have had in the US Senate while the Republicans were in the minority; in the majority, however, he did (does) not have what it takes to drive the stake in to the heart of the beast and twist it a few times.

That is what it takes to deal with this bunch of Democrats. Treating with them in the way that Senate Republicans did is exactly out of the Dole play book, and if you or anyone else believes that the 'Rats will honor their end of the agreement...oh hell, I'm going to get redundant if I finish that next-to-last sentence.


2,468 posted on 05/24/2005 4:19:51 PM PDT by Nucluside (Cultural Relativism is a lie; Western culture is superior)
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To: fatnotlazy

I've been fighting the good fight (politically) since I was 8 years old and I think I have finally had it with the good guys being political Wily Coyotes.


2,469 posted on 05/24/2005 4:27:12 PM PDT by Nucluside (Cultural Relativism is a lie; Western culture is superior)
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To: ImphClinton
That's Politics. Your glass is never full.

Not a dime.

2,470 posted on 05/24/2005 4:43:31 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: BillF
Here's my problem. Reid has nothing to keep Nelson, or any other Red Democrat Senator in line. How does Salazar or the Demo senator from SD benefit from this filibuster?

Reid can't promise or take away their power -he's a MINORITY leader, or punish them via the white house, or reduce their chances of running for president in 2008. (Do you think Salazar, Nelson, or any redstate Democrat to the right of Hillary has a chance?) Don't forget, in most Red states, being against Bush's judges, IS NOT a winning issue.

Yet, Reid could keep EVERYONE in line! And Friest couldn't keep 7 RINO's from stabbing us in the back. And we had everything on our side, senate history, the right of majority, etc. I mean, if anyone had the high ground it was the Repubs. I'd would vote for the nuclear option if John Kerry was president, because its the right thing to do.

And yet we caved. McCrazy and his band of back stabbing RINO's let us down.

2,471 posted on 05/24/2005 5:05:38 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: BillF
Here's my problem. Reid has nothing to keep Nelson, or any other Red Democrat Senator in line. How does Salazar or the Demo senator from SD benefit from this filibuster?

Reid can't promise or take away their power -he's a MINORITY leader, or punish them via the white house, or reduce their chances of running for president in 2008. (Do you think Salazar, Nelson, or any redstate Democrat to the right of Hillary has a chance?) Don't forget, in most Red states, being against Bush's judges, IS NOT a winning issue.

Yet, Reid could keep EVERYONE in line! And Friest couldn't keep 7 RINO's from stabbing us in the back. And we had everything on our side, senate history, the right of majority, etc. I mean, if anyone had the high ground it was the Repubs. I'd would vote for the nuclear option if John Kerry was president, because its the right thing to do.

And yet we caved. McCrazy and his band of back stabbing RINO's let us down.

2,472 posted on 05/24/2005 5:05:38 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Theodore R.

Always. :-(


2,473 posted on 05/24/2005 5:16:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Nucluside
I'm only trying to convey the point that-to the best of my knowledge-the Republicans have never had a better Senate Majority Leader than Bob Dole.

If you compare his record with that of his successors, they do not emerge favorably.

I would go even further, and state that if his recommendations for leadership posts had been adopted, Alan Simpson-for Majority Whip-and Thad Cochran-for Majority Leader-than the Republican Caucus would be in much more capable hands than it stands today.

Bob Dole would have been carried out of the Russell Long Office Building on a stretcher before he allowed a small clique of megalomaniacal, conniving, duplicitous pipsqueaks to subvert the rule of the majority.

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

2,474 posted on 05/24/2005 6:38:47 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("What in the world happened to Gerard's tag-line?")
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To: nopardons

My dad would have called them "Gutless Wonders"


2,475 posted on 05/24/2005 7:23:36 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: rcocean

You raise some good points.

You ask why the Dems were kept in line. Two comments.

See my second, third, and fourth points in:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408980/posts?page=2013#2013 . To the extent that all Dems were kept in line, those points may partly explain why.
Next, the 7 Dems broke ranks at least to an extent. They were not kept completely in line. Those 7 Dems are letting in the three judges that most upset the Dem base and Dem Senators.

Moving on, the panel on Brit Hume's Special Report had an interesting take.

Morton Kondracke claims that the GOP won because the Dem seven let the three judges painted as "most extreme" by Dems. Therefore, "extraordinary circumstances" will not apply to other pending judicial nominations and those Dem seven will not filibuster at least until a liberal Supreme Court Justice must be replaced. Kondracke thinks that this will get up or down votes for all judges until a liberal Supreme Court Justice needs replacing. This is a ceasefire that works to the GOP benefit for the time being, per his thinking.

Charles Krauthammer has a much different take. He said that pending judicial nominees, other than the three guaranteed a vote, have been thrown off the train. Those other pending nominees will be filibustered with the Dem seven backing the filibusters. Kondracke thinks otherwise.

If Kondracke is right, the Constitutional option is not needed until a liberal SC Justice needs replacing. Judicial nominees will not be filibustered by 40 or more Dems until that day.

I hope that Kondracke is right, but I fear that Krauthammer is right. Probably 6 to 10 Senators in each party don't even know for sure how they are going to behave in the future when these issues resurface. Their future decisions will determine which side is victorious. Only time will tell.


2,476 posted on 05/24/2005 7:47:16 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: flaglady47; nopardons

You already said you were leaving last night....but came back twice now. Who is it that can't let go? LOL! You are funny!


2,477 posted on 05/24/2005 7:48:59 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Nucluside

I've been fighting the good fight (politically) since I was 8 years old and I think I have finally had it with the good guys being political Wily Coyotes.

***

Eight years old? I think I was still playing with dolls back then. :)

Seriously...it's true, we have a dearth of leadership in this country...and it's frustrating. Every election, it seems the field of even tolerable candidates becomes smaller and smaller. But I still believe that we must continue to exercise this privilege that so many fought and died for.


2,478 posted on 05/25/2005 5:34:16 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: KoRn

"I'll be voting against John Warner this year."

Preach it...I will be too. And to think I voted for this guy....almost wish I could go back in time.....


2,479 posted on 05/26/2005 12:09:47 AM PDT by YoungBlackRepublican (90 percent of African Americans Vote Democrat...that's not independent thinking...it's sheep like)
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To: Zack Nguyen

Owen doesn't and she won her nomination.

Bolton Fillilbuster does not bode well for the agreement though.

Funny how FNC was not reporting it as a fillibuster.


2,480 posted on 05/26/2005 8:53:58 PM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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