Posted on 05/21/2005 2:04:22 PM PDT by Poser
Feel free to make your own fantasy laws to your hearts content, but they won't hold up in court. You might for example decide that in YOUR HOUSE (emphasis yours) your kids are minors until they are 29, NO MATTER WHAT (emphasis yours) and that the politicians of your state or anywhere else have no say, but I'm afraid you'd find the reality that smacked you upside your head is markedly different than your fantasy.
As you can see in the italicized sections of post #207 charges of kidnapping and unlawful restraint are clearly applicable. According to the kidnapping statute they are under the age of 18 and whether they go willingly or not, enticement, is not an issue.
Your original post to me " No moral qualms about trumped up charges against the college students? Man, that's just sick." was regarding the validity of my suggestion of charging the frat boys with kidnapping children, false imprisonment and corrupting morals of minors. All of these charges are supportable according to the pertinent state statutes and information provided in the two stories. Felony threatening of the father is also supportable by the information in the stories. Your assertion that the girls were of the age of consent is clearly incorrect when it comes to kidnapping, corruption of the morals of a minor and providing alcohol to a minor.
Recall that it was only a couple of weeks ago that Florida removed the obligation from the victim of an assault to first withdraw before defending himself. If you were attacked and didn't withdraw, you could find yourself going to jail if you prevailed, and you would most certainly find your assailant suing you in court.
Since Liquor Laws are flavoring this particular situation, it's wise to remember that simply standing aside doesn't make you innocent of what happens to the liquor on your premises.
An important point to remember regarding tenants are the terms of the lease. An house guest of whatever duration is actually just a tenant. You can make up whatever rules you wish, and without a signed lease, kick them out on the street if they violate those terms.
Thank You feel.
I wish the best for your lad likewise.
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What is it with twin daughters and booze? ;o)
I dunno, but I hope that my brother (father of twin girls and quite a partier in his own right, back in the day) never finds out.
They should not have, but that doesn't mean the frat guys have no responsibility in the matter either. They certainly have the responsibility not to interfer when the girls father comes to get them, especially considering it was at their request.
I can't find the danged article ... so help me out if you can.
Does it say that the girls disappeared on May 17?
That was a Tuesday. Unless things have changed a lot since I was in college, beer parties normally occur on Fri or Sat night.
These gals then were missing for 3-4 days?
Sounds to me like some little asses needed to be kicked, but not necessarily those of the frat boys.
When he started "asking questions" about the party the shit hit the fan. Now I can't fault him and approve of his bravado but it was plain stupid to start challenging a bunch of drunk frat boys. They only fight in packs when they are assured of winning. Pulling the gun was necessitated from his "questions". I bet they weren't couched in friendly terms either. I approve of his actions in general, I just believe it was stupid to challenge a bunch of drunk frat boys - it ended in a predictable fashion.
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