Posted on 05/21/2005 2:04:22 PM PDT by Poser
I suppose "dive" is one of those things that's going to differ from one state to another. All you need is some element of a "quid pro quo", the presence of liquor by the drink and the absence of a license!
The police officers who arrested him should be publicly shamed and the father should be publicly honored and remunerated at their expense.
How do you know he didn't do that? Maybe he did. Maybe they said "So what?"
LOL!
Yeah, I don't think you'd ever let them date. I sure would love to see you greeting their prom dates!ha.
So I suppose if every frat boy went out and bought some bottles of alcohol, then at the party they pooled the supply at the bar and served it, that wouldn't count?
I would hope, as a father, I would be clear headed enough to call the police and report what was happening. This way I wouldn't need to wave my gun and possibly injure myself, my daughters or one of the frat boys. You seem to be under the assumption that everyone at the party knew who the girls were and that their father was looking for them. Hell, this was a party. A bunch of college kids drinking and having fun. How many people on this board went (still go?) to parties like that? Suddenly, some frenzied guy who nobody ever saw before, bursts into the house and starts demanding to know who's throwing an underage drinking party- what do you expect them to do? It's lucky they didn't shoot him. The guy's motives were pure, but his actions were stupid- incredibly stupid.
Heaven knows how this all went down. So many little details upon which big consequences could turn. Might be the cops were mistaken, but weren't sure at the time, and so once a judge or even prosecutor sees this the father will walk. Or he could be in big trouble all according to law. Who knew what, when, will matter immensely.
Well, then I guess the father forgot to mention it, as well as the police and the guy who wrote the article, too. Using that reasoning, how do we know he didn't call the CIA?
Hmmm ~ it's going to depend on what your state accepts or requires as evidence. Pooling your booze can be construed as a "sale". Remember, Liquor Laws are the American response to Sharia Law ~ ever more obscure stuff about less and less and pointed in a direction that has nothing whatsoever to do with booze!
He's from TX and it sure sounds like once you, as a female, reach the age of consent, look out.
And I was kidding you about your remark about Texas Taliban and their women. Sometimes cyberspace just does not "get it", does it? :o)
I won't respond any more but I smile at the thought of one day that you "get" the reaction of this father....this father who may have been wrong - neither you nor I know the whole story yet.
So you think that a group of frat boys should be allowed to forcibly remove ("throw him out") a father, and yet retain his underage daughters at their drinking party? Interesting. Maybe someone should toss you from a party, and yet retain your spouse against your will. That'll make you think before you act next time, right?
That's correct. However, the reason I said that they will wish they hadn't called the police is their parties with underagers are probably all but over. Too bad for them.The police will be keeping an eye on their place. Good.
Please read the article. No one was holding them against their will- they just couldn't get a ride home. If they were being held, why didn't they just call the police instead of their dad.
I can't. The link goes to a list of AP stories, none of which is this one.
Because he was trying to protect his daughter's.
Here's another account from Fosters.com another local newspaper. The Union Leader seems to have spiked the story from their website.
http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050520/NEWS0802/105200110/-1/NEWS08
DURHAM — Police arrested a Manchester man who allegedly pulled a gun on several people inside a University of New Hampshire fraternity late Thursday night, while looking for his twin high school daughters who were drinking alcohol at the house.
Police said John M. Lohnes, 47, of 79 Harrison St., Manchester, entered the Phi Kappa Theta fraternity at 17 Garrison Ave., around midnight and threatened several people in the house with a 9 mm handgun, said Deputy police Chief Rene Kelley.
Phi Kappa Theta is not an officially recognized fraternity by the UNH Greek system.
Eight Durham and UNH police officers responded to the frat house and arrested Lohnes without incident, Kelley said. Police also took Lohnes' twin 17-year-old daughters into protective custody for internal possession of alcohol.
There were "a number of people" inside the residence at the time, Kelley said but no one was injured.
Lohnes was charged with criminal threatening, a Class B felony and carrying a weapon without a permit, a Class A misdemeanor. He was released on $25,000 personal recognizance bail and will be arraigned in Durham District Court on June 23.
Police continue to investigate.
Typical dad... total Bozo when it comes to his daughters. I couldn't read the whole article 'cause the link is dead. The saddest part of this whole thread is all the folks encouraging law suits against the school, fraternity, dad, police, etc. The frats should be happy they didn't get shot and the dad should be happy he got his daughters home. Nobody's going to live happily ever after if more lawyers get involved. Either way sounds like these twins are out of control. Dad should focus more on them as opposed to who they're with when they decide to run off.
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