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To: RusIvan; lizol
May I interrupt you both?

RusIvan. As far as I know from the book The Eighteenth Decisive Battle in the World by Edgar Vincent D'Abernoon, there were lots of Russian prisoners (tens of thousands) who escaped to German East Prussia and were captured there by the German Army. Those prisoners who were captured by the Polish Army (estimated 50,000 or so) were usually not Russians. They had Asian features. Lord D'Abernoon depicts them as "hordes".

A few Russians, who were interrogated by the Polish, said they would never come back to the USSR because coming back from imprisonment means imminent death penalty for them. They would be treated as "imperialistic spies" and traitors by Bolsheviks and executed immediately on the spot without trials.

That was the reason why Stalin announced them dead (murdered) or so, but actually many of them stayed in Poland or returned to their homes secretly.

You must read the book! It's a real document of those times.
I read it long time ago and can't remember all the details.

As to concentration camps,there was only one in Poland but it was for Polish communists in Bereza Kartuska. In fact, it was a field prison, not an extermination camp the German way we know today. It was only a very harsh prison.

64 posted on 05/20/2005 5:50:54 PM PDT by Pomian
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To: Pomian

Those prisoners who were captured by the Polish Army (estimated 50,000 or so) were usually not Russians. They had Asian features. Lord D'Abernoon depicts them as "hordes". ==

I agree with that. Those bolshevick hordes wasn't russian with some russian involvement so.

As to concentration camps,there was only one in Poland but it was for Polish communists in Bereza Kartuska. In fact, it was a field prison, not an extermination camp the German way we know today. It was only a very harsh prison.==

I agree with that too.

Nevertheless it happened. POWs deathes in polish captivity then Stalin's executions of polish officers (they say in revenge).
Poland partitioned Checkoslovakia with Hitler then Poland was partitioned with Stalin and same Hitler next year. (Poles talk about it as greatest historical wrong. I don't disagree that it was wrong but it was god justise IMO for 1938.)
Poland wishes to become colonial power before WW2.
Polish prison camps like wise Stalin's prison camps happened in same time too.

I may find even more similarities.

But one difference so. Poland of Pilsudskii was national polish Poland.
Soviet Union of Stalin was international commie'. So it wasn't russian national state.
Think about it.

They attack RUSSIANS for deeds of nonrussian international commie state. Is it fair?
They put on RUSSIANs the character image of international commies. They see RUSSIANs with same stereotypes. And they think that they are right!:) Funny isn't it?


65 posted on 05/20/2005 6:12:08 PM PDT by RusIvan
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