Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

NRO ^ | May 19, 2005, 8:15 a.m. | By Penny Nance

[ExPatInFrance]

Thanks bird! I do agree that XR7 holds moronic viewpoints. I mean he/she said Capitalism is idolatry!

[arasina]

Typical leftisit propaganda straight out of the Marxist/PC/RDDB playbook.

LOL! That's a new one for me. I'm not into censorship so that makes me a Marxist? Just wait until they come for your choice of books or websites, XR7; you'll be singing an entirely different tune.

[Antoninus]

It would be indentured servitude and not slavery. The real distinction between slavery and indentured servitude is that offspring of slaves are slaves, and the offspring of the indentured are free.

What if the contract stipulated that as well?

[Antoninus]

I happen to know several very nice homosexual men and women and I have news for you, they are not homosexual becasue of watching porn!

No, they are most likely homosexual because they were molested by homosexual men in their youth. That's the sad story behind about 90% of men afflicted with homosexual attractions.

[Antoninus]

Since when is the truth liberal?

You've got a strange version of the truth if you think that unlimited access to pornography is all part of the march of "freedom." That is a notion straight out of the far left's playbook dating back before the 1960s. I've already quoted the "Current Communist Goals" twice on this thread. It truly is unnerving to see how many people have bought into that garbage even when the facts regarding the attempted societal brain-washing are displayed right before your eyes. Comparing the "right" to buy, own, and masturbate to pornography with the right of a black person to be free from slavery, or the right of a woman to vote is quite ludicrous, don't you think? I don't think it'll go down in history as one of the high-points of human "freedom."

As I've said over and over again, no one has the God-given freedom to commit a harmful, gross, immoral, or self-destructive act. That's license, not freedom.

[Melas]

You've got a strange version of the truth if you think that unlimited access to pornography is all part of the march of "freedom."

This is where you keep getting it wrong, over and over again. I've never said I wanted unlmited access to pornography. What I want is intelligent discourse about where the lines should be drawn. Hard and fast lines, not something nebulous like "back to 1957". I want to know where folks stand, what exactly would have to go etc.

[xsrdx]

This is sophistical and not worthy of a response.

Because it destroys your argument that any graphic representation of sexuality -porn- is inherently "lustful" and therefore biblically proscribed.

Who determines when craving becomes "inordinate?". Your definition of lust places limits on how much one can enjoy the act, in marriage - absurd.

Look up "inordinate."

Look up "pretentious".

[Lazamataz]

Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

Predators got porn??

How do they see what the chick Predator is trying to show, with those invisibility suits?

[Aliska]

I haven't gotten any of those for a loooooooong time. I used to chuckle over those while I deleted them.

Guess I should have left well enough alone. They got my "number" again. Two showed up in my mailbox the next morning from Sussanah and Andrew, offering the usual enhancement to an anatomical piece of equipment I don't possess.

Got a couple of more of those since then

More disburbing is that I have gotten a couple child porn spams. I've never gotten those before. Guess I'll have to pester some people I prefer to leave alone about the second one.

[PzGr43]

>Post hoc ergo propter hoc violation. Every single one of >those predators also drank water and ate bread at some >point in their lives. This does not mean that bread and >water drove them to predation.
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True. This is the usual stuff that totally fails to distinguish cause/effect.

Normally, this kind of thing is from the intellectual left who want to ban something / pursue their own interests.

They are very keen on seeing themselves as the defenders of innocents and using 'harm to innocents' to camouflage their agenda. The going gets tough when Saddam Hussein is the "innocent".

[k2blader]

People into porno are about as bad as sexual predators. Both also feel what they're doing is morally acceptable.

[Aquinasfan]

Because it destroys your argument that any graphic representation of sexuality -porn- is inherently "lustful" and therefore biblically proscribed.

A mirror is a "graphic representation of sexuality"? It's "pornography"?

graph·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (grfk)
adj. also graph·i·cal (--kl)

1.
a.) Of or relating to written representation.
b.) Of or relating to pictorial representation.

The essence of pornography is the fact that it is a tangible representation of sexual imagery.

por·nog·ra·phy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pôr-ngr-f)
n.

1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

Who determines when craving becomes "inordinate?".

Who determines when a craving for a Twinkie becomes inordinate? The determination depends on particular circumstances. The difficulty in determining the dividing line doesn't obviate the difference in principle between ordinate and inordinate desire.

Your definition of lust places limits on how much one can enjoy the act, in marriage - absurd.

If it's so absurd, then it should be easy for you to explain to me why lust is impossible in marriage.

[Modernman]

People into porno are about as bad as sexual predators. Both also feel what they're doing is morally acceptable.

The difference, as you well know, is that everyone involved in the production and consumption of legal pornography is a consenting adult.

Comparing private, consensual adult viewing of pornography to rape or child molestation just makes you look foolish.

[Modernman]

think that people who consume it do so at theri own peril, it is a poor substituition for human contact and interaction.

I agree with you. Porn is like any other adult vice- it can lead to bad consequences for the individuals involved, but since they are adults such consequences are their's to live with.

[xsrdx]

If it's so absurd, then it should be easy for you to explain to me why lust is impossible in marriage.

Certainly it's possible - in a dysfunctional, pseudo-marriage.

In a loving marriage, where both partners are in agreement, only Catholics would posit that you can be too hot for each other.

The difficulty in determining the dividing line doesn't obviate the difference in principle between ordinate and inordinate desire.

That's an elegant sentence. Only on FR.

[jimt]

As I've said over and over again, no one has the God-given freedom to commit a harmful, gross, immoral, or self-destructive act.

Reality shows this to be an utterly false statement.

Obviously God gave us the freedom to commit harmful, gross, immoral and self destructive acts. If not, they'd be impossible.

Under Lucifer's plan, rejected by God, all such acts would have been impossible, thus guaranteeing the "salvation" of all.

Of course, free will, one of God's greatest gifts, goes right out the window.

[Aquinasfan]

In a loving marriage, where both partners are in agreement, only Catholics would posit that you can be too hot for each other.

Here's a simple example. When couples choose to sterilize themselves temporarily (using "birth control") and engage in intercourse, they are lying with their bodies, on the one hand, acting in "union" but at the same time rejecting the natural flowering of that expression. Such a sexual union is like masturbation in that it is a selfish, self-directed choice for the pleasure of intercourse without regard for the proper object of intercourse, similar to binging and purging.

[k2blader]

People into porno, like you, probably, will try to justify it in many ways.

[mowkeka]

The problem with pornography is that you constantly have to be "upping" the sexual level of the photos, in order to get the same satisfaction.
It's just like a drug.
This is why many people eventually get into gay or child porn.

[IamConservative]

The title could as easily read: "Watching baseball and sexual predators; a disturbing link."

You can create a link between anything popular and anything unsavory. Doesn't mean the link is scientifically valid.

My money is on childhood sexual abuse by a sexual predator as the leading cause for creating sexual predators.