[cripplecreek]

When I was a kid I was expected to do housework after school because both of my parents worked. When I became a teenager I got a job on a farm for after school. Ive been cooking my own meals and doing my own laundry since I was old enough to safely do so.

Part of the problem is that liberals look down on laborers. They see someone who spends their life on the factory floor as a failure because they haven't advanced to the main office. A lot of people are quite content with working on the factory floor and don't want to advance. They just want a decent wage for doing so.

[CatoRenasci]

Indeed. It is in part a misunderstanding of the underlying class issue. In the old days, when there was a tiny upper class and a relatively small middle class (what we'd now call upper middle class), the middle class aspired to respectability and feared anything that would make them declasse and part of the working class: hence an aversion to any sort of 'working with one's hands'. It was a carry-over from Europe, distorted: in Europe -less in England than on the continent- aristocrats ran a serious risk of a loss of position if they did anything that smacked of 'engaging in trade'. The upper class lived primarily from the fruits of capital rather than individual work. Those who aspire to an aristocratic lifestyle -- think especially the professionals and politicos -- ape what they think is that style without understanding that while real aristocrats had many servants, they very often did not disdain physical work, at least such as they chose on their own estates. Curious how in this country it's been transformed in the current middle class from a reluctance to make one's livelihood from manual or 'blue collar' work to a horror of any physical work at all!

[mountn man]

A lot of people are quite content with working on the factory floor and don't want to advance. They just want a decent wage for doing so.

But the REALITY IS that there are some jobs that just aren't worth a decent wage.

A person might think a decent wage is $30,000 a year, but flipping burgers at Mickey D's isn't going to get you that.

Its the individuals resposibility to make himself worth whatever pay he wants. If he wants $30,000 he knows that flipping burgers at Mickey D's ain't going to cut it. But management will. So he works hard and works his way to that $30,000 job.

The problem is, libs see employers being responsible for a persons livelyhood, and not the person themselves.