[libertarianben]

I'm all for the fair tax, but first they had better repeal the 16th amendment and destroy the IRS before making it law. If not, then god help us, the federal government will then have two taxes in which to tax us to death, one on our incomes and another in the stuff we buy. Two scary to think about.

[Principled]

...then god help us, the federal government will then have two taxes in which to tax us to death, one on our incomes and another in the stuff we buy.

They already have that. HR 25 would prevent it.

[Publius Valerius]

I hear a lot about how we need to repeal the 16th Amendment to solve the income tax "problem," and it was even a plank in Badnarik's campaign in the last election.

Problem is, though, that ain't good enough. The U.S. government had income taxes before the 16th Amendment was ratified. You need an amendment that BOTH repeals the 16th Amendment AND forbids the collection of any income taxes.

That aside, I'm not sure that I'm sold on a national sales tax. I think I'm just having problems supporting any kind of tax at all.

Query: were this to be passed, think Congress would continue to allow tax-free Internet purchases?

[QQQQQ]

"I'm all for the fair tax, but first they had better repeal the 16th amendment and destroy the IRS before making it law."

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I agree completely.

[FastCoyote]

"they had better repeal the 16th amendment and destroy the IRS before making it law. If not, then god help us, the federal government will then have two taxes in which to tax us to death"

That is the problem. I think we should be concentrating on lowering current taxes and cutting the percentage of GDP devoted to government.

Deficit spending and inflation are actually the fairest tax system of all, no IRS and it is a flat tax. So, cut taxes, balloon the deficit (so they can't spend more) is really the way to go.

[Badray]

Let me ask you a question. First let me say that I haven't read any further yet so I don't know if anyone has commented on your remark. Now the question:

Let's say that the Congress votes in the FairTax and the FairTax Bill calls for the repeal of the Income Tax and the destruction of the IRS, and the start of the process of repealing the 16th Amendment -- you do know that the Congress can pass a bill overnight, but it might take years for the states to act on repealing an amendment, right?

Okay, this is what they do one day and all is good, right? Next week they vote to reinstate everything and still keep the FairTax?

What would you do? Would you just say "Damn, I knew that they'd do this"? or would you head out to the Capitol or your local rep who voted for a reinstatement -- and string 'em up?

If you choose to sit on your ass and just swear, perhaps you should have to pay both taxes.

I know that you are for the FairTax, but we can't be passive about this. Congress has to know that (at least) their political lives are on the line. Perhaps more than that.

They aren't our bosses. They are our representatives. If they do what you suggest, they have declared war on the American people and should pay a hefty price for their transgression.

Does that sound like I'm advocating violence? I sure hope so.

[CMOTB]

I think so too. The best part of any of the "fair tax" plans have to include the removal of the Infernal Revenue Service. But they are so deeply embedded withing the government/house/senate/ I almost wonder if they just fear the IRS or are to busy using them as a tool for their own control of the public sector.