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To: ancient_geezer
I see, don't confuse you with facts or information or philosophy or moral argument.

Stuff your insults.

That just gets in the way of pre-conceived notions and foundationless beliefs.

No, I have interests, including an equity interest, that I am interested in seeing that you fail to compromise with your hustle and yak.

I am interested in fairness for everyone, and taking businessmen's taxes and pushing them off on everyone else, while it is logical for them to want to do, is equally logically something that self-respecting citizens will resist.

Truth and beauty do not inhere in my picking up your dinner tab.

Have a nice day.

1,482 posted on 08/20/2005 2:15:29 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

There is no way for an individual to resist paying the taxes charged businesses. Businesses are going to figure every cost into the price of the product. Taxes are one cost that is figured in. Anyone who is in business will do this. To do otherwise would be a fast track to bankruptcy. Therefore, only individuals pay taxes. The fair tax will eliminate these imbedded taxes and replace them with a sales tax. The market will bring the prices back down to where they were before the sales tax pretty quickly.


1,484 posted on 08/20/2005 6:52:15 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: lentulusgracchus

I am interested in fairness for everyone, and taking businessmen's taxes and pushing them off on everyone else, while it is logical for them to want to do, is equally logically something that self-respecting citizens will resist.

And totally impossible to do, as a business could pay tax under any condition. I can only remit taxes from sales revenues it receives, and distribute the rest into production costs, business expansion, return to investors, and payment of wages.

Only people can pay taxes, A business is merely infra-structure, a tool for the conduct of commercial activity. It's participants from investor, supplier, laborer to consumer are all individuals only they have the capacity to cough up that which government demands. A business is merely a conduit from consumer to government and the people who produce the goods and services.

Your whole reasoning is rooted in a false paradigm that somehow a business is a person with an capacity to pay taxes when all it is a construct of individuals, an organization to facilitate commerce among individual people.

Garbage in Garbage out, when ones base premise is false, any conclusions derived from it is invalid as well.

Truth and beauty do not inhere in my picking up your dinner tab.

Tax systems have nothing to do with beauty. Truth is rooted in reality. In paying and financing the payment of taxes you pick up the dinner tab of every person working for or benefiting from government largess.

Whether you want to pick up my dinner tab or not is relavent only if I receive anything through government. If I were to receive a benefit from government, you're financing it whether you believe so or not.

Have a good day.<

1,485 posted on 08/20/2005 7:38:25 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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