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To: lentulusgracchus

I've already told you that I prefer a flat tax to paying businesses' taxes for them and giving them a pass.

Businesses merely collect from individuals through higher prices and lower pay and return on capital investment and remit them to government.

Sorry business never pays a tax it has not collected from some individual whether it be explicitly as as in a retail sales tax, or implicitly as in corporate income and payroll taxes.

The fact that you claim to pay no income tax now, while advocating a very steep sales tax, shows that you are either very dedicated to your idee fixe, or you are just off your rocker,

You might try dedicated to seeing the end of an immoral tax system and contributing as little as possible to its perpetuation among other factors.

Your calling me names and lining up quotes endlessly to indulge in name-calling by proxy won't make your position any more logical.

Don't recall calling you many names along the way. As far as quotes regarding observations concerning tax systems and government go, well where the shoe fits you are bound to wear it.

or there is something you are not telling us about why your bread would be buttered by everyone else's shouldering an onerous sales tax.

My net payment of taxes would be higher under an NRST so that one is a bit out there in the boonies isn't it. On the other hand you have clearly stated why you chose the tax system preferences you do. Yours is personal bottom line, mine is of a more philosophical and moral nature. To each his own.

Something tells me you're sitting on a giant IRA or Keough account with a great big income-tax obligation you'd like to get out from under.

Imangination can be a nasty thing that causes one to guess wrongly and frequently.

Once again you reveal your basis of lifes choices through projection of that which you conceive to be driving factors. What may be true for you in motivation is not true for all my freind.

“It is amazing how many people think that they can answer an argument by attributing bad motives to those who disagree with them. Using this kind of reasoning, you can believe or not believe anything about anything, without having to bother to deal with facts or logic.”
--Dr. Thomas Sowell

 

Prate all you want, people won't be your fools just because you keep cranking out your spew.

No one needs to be my fool, all are free to come to their own conclusion for their own lives. That is what liberty is about. Open discussion, access to knowledge and making knowing, willing and free choices based thereon.

And no, I am NOT willing to subject my earnings that I got fairly long ago, and which have already been double-taxed, to still a third round of taxation so that companies can avoid taxation completely.

Seeing that companies can only pay taxes from that which they ultimately derive from their customer base. You've got a problem, unless you figure on not ever spending anything in maintaining your own comfort and lifestyle.

Willing or no, you pay taxes through business proxy every time you purchase anything at all.

 

The following article covers the mechanism on how the current Federal tax system propagates and is embedded into consumption expenditure.

DO YOU PAY YOUR INCOME TAX
AT THE SUPERMARKET?

by D. Sherman Cox J.D. L.L.M. Taxation

Isn't it wonderful to know they got you both coming and going?

Bush touts relief as tax day looms

Another 3.9 million Americans will have their income tax liability completely eliminated, officials said.

Problem is folks still pay the taxes even when they are just snookered in to believing otherwise, its time to give the nation's voters visibility of their tax burdens not hide them even more.

Wonder where they hid the pea, in the perpetual political shell game?

CBO Monthly Budget Review


RECEIPTS THROUGH FEBRUARY
(In billions of dollars)


  October-February
Percentage
Change
Major Source FY2001 FY2002

Individual Income 404   373   -7.6  
Corporate Income 59   63   6.2  
Social Insurance 270   273   1.4  
Other 59   57   -3.1  
               
  Total 792   766   -3.2  

SOURCES: Department of the Treasury; CBO.

The individual income tax return that captures everyone's attention each April, is nothing more an accounting sheet the government cons individuals, held at ransom, into filling out. It puts a blinder on the eyes of the voter, and totally distorts their perceptions as to the real impact of taxation in their lives.

1,451 posted on 08/18/2005 7:54:48 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer
Businesses merely collect from individuals through higher prices and lower pay and return on capital investment and remit them to government.

No, they don't. Not if people don't patronize them.

People will pay those taxes if they agree to a national sales tax.

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, spammer.

1,452 posted on 08/18/2005 8:11:34 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: ancient_geezer
Isn't it wonderful to know they got you both coming and going?

Not if we don't give you what you so pantingly want, which is for us to assume burdens we haven't agreed to.

1,453 posted on 08/18/2005 8:14:17 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: ancient_geezer
As far as quotes regarding observations concerning tax systems and government go, well where the shoe fits you are bound to wear it.

Dissembling will get you nowhere. "I didn't call you a spineless sapsucker, I just said you lack a spine and you suck sap." Yeah, sure.

Sorry, that crack about shoes fitting, just won't walk. You're engaged in attribution of low intelligence and bad motivation to someone who disagrees with you. You might as well stop dissembling, now.

That Tom Sowell quote applies to you as much as anybody.

1,454 posted on 08/18/2005 8:21:29 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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