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To: lentulusgracchus

Is there something you would like to tell us?

Thems that reply on a thread get responded to. Not spam, just normal response.

Now the way to end response, is not bother to throw out yet another idiocy. But some folks jess can't seem to help themselves.

In your case it is a very useful trait to take advantage of as it servers to attract attention to an otherwise dead thead and where others may learn abit of tax history, the fundamental character of our current income tax law, its genesis and the essential features that make it such a great tool of government for implementing social and political engineering. Not to mention a great way for politicions to buy votes, reward their supporters and disadvantage their detractors.

Yep the federal income tax system is one of the greatest tools in the world for manipulation of an electorate and providing not only revenue to implement social change and government control over the electorate but assure those who are in power using that tools stays there.

Interesting how long the essential character that allows an income tax to be such a useful has been recognized:

"When there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income."
Plato (427 BC - 347 BC), The Republic
In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
-Voltaire (1764)

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
-George Bernard Shaw

Anyone who disagrees with you lives in chains.

Actually no, just those that are content with their lot under the income tax.

But then it has been well know from the foundation of this Republic that

"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
--- Continental Congress Assembled; Declaration of Independance, 1776

 

Such is understandable, even if not a particularly virtuous position to take.

They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.
Benjamin Franklin.


1,449 posted on 08/18/2005 6:59:14 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer
...federal income tax system is one of the greatest tools in the world for manipulation of an electorate ....

Actually, that is true of any tax policy, including the odious salt tax -- which was a retail tax.

Whatever tax is imposed, if it is fair, will be supported by the people. I've already told you that I prefer a flat tax to paying businesses' taxes for them and giving them a pass.

Your calling me names and lining up quotes endlessly to indulge in name-calling by proxy won't make your position any more logical. The fact that you claim to pay no income tax now, while advocating a very steep sales tax, shows that you are either very dedicated to your idee fixe, or you are just off your rocker, or there is something you are not telling us about why your bread would be buttered by everyone else's shouldering an onerous sales tax.

Something tells me you're sitting on a giant IRA or Keough account with a great big income-tax obligation you'd like to get out from under.

Prate all you want, people won't be your fools just because you keep cranking out your spew.

And no, I am NOT willing to subject my earnings that I got fairly long ago, and which have already been double-taxed, to still a third round of taxation so that companies can avoid taxation completely.

1,450 posted on 08/18/2005 7:12:26 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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