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KEN STARR'S REAL VIEWS
NRO Corner ^ | 05/12/05 | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 05/12/2005 10:45:25 AM PDT by Pikamax

KEN STARR'S REAL VIEWS [Ramesh Ponnuru]

CBS, AP, and other outlets reported earlier this week that Starr had said that getting rid of the judicial filibuster would be a "radical, radical departure from our history and our traditions, and it amounts to an assault on the judicial branch of government."

This seemed like a very odd thing for Starr to say, so I contacted him.

He forwarded to me an email he had sent to someone else who had asked about this matter:

"In the piece that I have now seen, and which I gather is being lavishly quoted, CBS employed two snippets. The 'radical departure' snippet was specifically addressed -- although this is not evidenced whatever from the clip -- to the practice of invoking judicial philosopy as a grounds for voting against a qualified nominee of integrity and experience. I said in sharp language that that practice was wrong. I contrasted the current practice . . . with what occurred during Ruth Ginsburg's nomination process, as numerous Republicans voted (rightly) to confirm a former ACLU staff lawyer. They disagreed with her positions as a lawyer, but they voted (again, rightly) to confirm her. Why? Because elections, like ideas, have consequences. . . . In the interview, I did indeed suggest, and have suggested elsewhere, that caution and prudence be exercised (Burkean that I am) in shifting/modifying rules (that's the second snippet), but I likewise made clear that the 'filibuster' represents an entirely new use (and misuse) of a venerable tradition. . . .

"[O]ur friends are way off base in assuming that the CBS snippets, as used, represent (a) my views, or (b) what I in fact said."


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To: Zechariah11
What gall of these liar to hold back the transcripts!!

Ken Starr might have a libelous slander case in this. And you'd better believe that if he does, he will know because Starr is one of the best lawyers in DC. I'd say there is a good chance that CBS gets their butts hauled into court and those transcripts will be given to him by an order of a judge. It'd be funny if it were a federal judge.
101 posted on 05/12/2005 11:23:37 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Pikamax

Seems to me CBS needs to receive a bunch of e-mails and phone calls...questioning their veracity, etc.


102 posted on 05/12/2005 11:25:45 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: advance_copy

I urge him to do so. CBS crossed a line last year, and this proves nothing was learned. It's time everyone over there started receiving summons. Instead of an investigation into baseball, THIS is what the Senators should investigate.


103 posted on 05/12/2005 11:26:30 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Pikamax
STARRGATE!,

has a nice ring to it.

I may ship cBS a shovel,so they can just keep digging a deeper hole.

104 posted on 05/12/2005 11:27:38 AM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Pikamax

Sort of off topic, but why would anyone want to get rid of the filibuster? That just means when the Dems are in charge of juducial nominees, we can't filibuster either.


105 posted on 05/12/2005 11:28:39 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: CivilWarguy

***Until the MSM run Starr's correction on page 1, CBS (unfortunately) HAS gotten away with it!***

The way I see this is that MOST people in this country never knew or don't care who Ken Starr is. BUT CBS just blew it! Everyone will now know that Starr has accused CBS of quoting him out of context. CBS has dirtied its own name, and people will lose more faith in it. Way to go, CBS, keep it up.


106 posted on 05/12/2005 11:30:21 AM PDT by kitkat (!)
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To: Bella_Bru
Bella,

We never have fillibustered judges. And until now, neither had the dems.

I don't support the so called nuclear option of eliminating the ability to filibuster judicial nominees. I do however support getting rid of the "Gentlemans Fillibuster" which is what is being used now.

If they want to fillibuster, fine. Do a REAL FILLIBUSTER!

107 posted on 05/12/2005 11:31:07 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: wolf24

"Rush is talking about this right now. The actions of CBS in this case don't quite rise to the dishonesty of Rathergate, but they're damn close."

No I think the dishonest itself is certainly just as great. I am sure they knew exactly what they were doing.
I'll grant that the CONSEQUENCES may not be as great; that may be open to debate.


108 posted on 05/12/2005 11:31:47 AM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Pikamax

If the judicial filibuster isn't provided by the Constitution, then get rid of it.


109 posted on 05/12/2005 11:33:03 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Phantom Lord

We never have? Are you sure? Not even under Clinton?


110 posted on 05/12/2005 11:34:54 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: Bella_Bru

Never. Not once. Not a single time. Ever.


111 posted on 05/12/2005 11:35:27 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Liberty Valance
Far more important than just writing a few [to be ignored] emails to cBS, is to call all the local affiliates and make sure that they know that we are calling for a FULL INVESTIGATION by the FCC demanding that they pull cBS' license to broadcast.

Also forcefully remind them that, beginning today, we are calling for a complete Boycott of ALL cBS programming and will inform cBS' local and national advertisers of that fact!

112 posted on 05/12/2005 11:36:37 AM PDT by auzerais
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To: lilylangtree

"If the judicial filibuster isn't provided by the Constitution, then get rid of it."

Check the constitution. In the same paragraph that grants the Senate the authority to approve treaties with a 2/3 vote it says they shall also advise and consent to judicial nominnees but says nothing ao a super majority requirement.


113 posted on 05/12/2005 11:37:21 AM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Pikamax

CBS has now officially become a Disinformation Bureau.


114 posted on 05/12/2005 11:37:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Howlin
CBS falsifying Kenneth Starr's actual interview points - bump!
115 posted on 05/12/2005 11:37:40 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Save the Republic from the shallow, demagogic sectarians.)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping. I had just heard it on Rush and was glad to find this thread.


116 posted on 05/12/2005 11:38:07 AM PDT by kitkat (!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Never. Not once. Not a single time. Ever.

I have heard the contrary, that we "did" sort of do it, and then they name some judges, although apparently the filibusters were of short duration and of no consequence, or SOMETHING like that. Then I have heard from liberal sources that Republicans HAVE done the same thing. I'd like to get to the bottom of that one..

117 posted on 05/12/2005 11:38:50 AM PDT by Paradox (In my heart, I will always be something of a Liberal, in my head, a Conservative. Head wins.)
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To: Pikamax

Exposed again eh? Good.


118 posted on 05/12/2005 11:39:34 AM PDT by planekT (Go DeLay, Go!)
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To: Pikamax
If you haven't seen it, here is a link to the Gloria Borger interview with Kenn Starr (video).
119 posted on 05/12/2005 11:39:53 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: NonValueAdded

I wonder.....can Ken Starr SUE SeeBS for deliberately lying about what he said? If not....maybe in the future, interviewees of SeeBS should insist upon having their OWN camera taping the interview, as well.

At any rate....SeeBS needs to go. This is the last straw....I've had it with them.


120 posted on 05/12/2005 11:40:08 AM PDT by XenaLee
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