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To: JustAnAmerican
fining and locking up employers of Illegals

You mean the 10 million+ households in Calif alone that hire gardeners, nannies, etc?

cut off all social programs to illegals

Illegals don't receive social payments - it's their US citizen kids that were born here.

deporting the ones caught not letting them go.

Who's an illegal? What is the proper ID?

While it sounds nice contemplating sending 10m illegals home packing, it just isn't going to happen. (If for no other reason than to avoid grainy black/white documentary footage being shown in the Nazi WWII propagana style of homes being raided, moms/kids being cuffed, etc.)

We need a system in place to legalize guest workers - both those already here and those coming in the future. If illegals had a way to bank their savings and then return to their homeland, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

After all, it's not just natives that want to get out of Calif. I'd bet your typical illegal would gladly return to their village if they had a monthly stipend coming in from their savings.

70 posted on 05/12/2005 9:48:46 AM PDT by lemura
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To: lemura
If you want 20-30 million MORE criminal invaders to swarm into our nation in the next decade, just give any form of amnesty to the criminal invaders who snuck in over the last decade.

Any rational discussion of this problem has to start here: with a decent security fence. Until we build one, our welcome mat is out.

75 posted on 05/12/2005 9:53:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: lemura
...Nazi WWII propagana style of homes being raided, moms/kids being cuffed, etc...

My thoughts, too, but I figured I'd let someone else say it. :)

87 posted on 05/12/2005 10:04:22 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: lemura

"We need a system in place to legalize guest workers -..."


So you want to reward illegal?

You want amnesty?

I would RATHER that we give a 90 day window for these illegals to GTHO of here... back to their swill hole countries...and then APPLY for the "jobs that Americans don't want to do"... through the proper channels. If you do not have a job? You do not get to enter, plain and simple. Then tack on a 15 year moratorium to prevent them from soaking up any social services. Those that don't get out of Dodge in 90 days will EVENTUALLY be found and returned to their home country where they will have to wait ten years to re-apply for a work permit. Carrot and Stick approach.

NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW we can "talk"....ok?



Why should they be rewarded and put at the beginning of the line?


88 posted on 05/12/2005 10:04:49 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: lemura
While it sounds nice contemplating sending 10m illegals home packing, it just isn't going to happen. (If for no other reason than to avoid grainy black/white documentary footage being shown in the Nazi WWII propagana style of homes being raided, moms/kids being cuffed, etc.)

Cut illegal aliens off from all jobs and all taxpayer funded services and no roundup of illegal aliens would be needed. They would start leaving on their own.

130 posted on 05/12/2005 10:46:14 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: lemura
" You mean the 10 million+ households in Calif alone that hire gardeners, nannies, etc?

I mean anyone and anybody that knowingly hires Illegals.

" Illegals don't receive social payments - it's their US citizen kids that were born here."

What a crock, Illegals get Free Medical care and social services in many states. Guess that +1 Billion dollar theft from the US taxpayer to cover Illegal's medical costs was all a figment of our imagination.Or how about the Billions of dollars that it costs to house their criminal element.

We need a system in place to legalize guest workers - both those already here and those coming in the future. If illegals had a way to bank their savings and then return to their homeland, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

Personally I don't give a rat's tail what illegals want, let them change their own country instead of thinking it's their right to sponge off America and our Citizens. America and Americans first, period!!

144 posted on 05/12/2005 11:13:10 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: lemura
You have no solutions, but congratulations on being part of the problem.

Your views attract only a tiny (and declining) minority around here.

154 posted on 05/12/2005 11:30:37 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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