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To: chronic_loser

Science isn't allowed to cite god or miracles, because they, by their nature, can't be understood by the scientific method. Can you imagine a publication that essentially says, "I can't make much sense of the data, so I assume god did it." It essentially ends the search for patterns in nature by resorting to the supernatural.


27 posted on 05/10/2005 4:32:58 AM PDT by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: crail
It essentially ends the search for patterns in nature by resorting to the supernatural.>>>

Farraday, Kepler, Curie, GW Carver, and a host of others would disagree. As would Alfred Noth Whitehead, who claims that the Chrisian worldview birthed modern science itself.
I see this claim made frequently. It is essentially that claims of the supernatural lead to the abandonment of science itself and embracing mysticism/witchcraft/superstition in its place. If we observe and test this theory, we find that the observed data does not fit the theory. Advocates of what would today be called ID were at the forefront of modern science, many theists have made significant contributions to our field of knowledge in the area, and did not feel compelled to abandon their laborotories to read the chicken entrails or pray to the virgin or drive out the demons in order to explain the data.

The assertion simply does not fit observed behavior, and must be abandoned.
30 posted on 05/10/2005 4:48:34 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: crail
Strawman argument. Some knowledge seekers who hold to the Bibilical accounts work to weave observations into not theories that are compatible with those accounts as they understand them. Such honest scientists would not use supernatural as an easy out, as an excuse. They would realize, in scientific humility, that their understandings of biblical accounts are as in-development as their scientific theories.

Many other knowlegde seekers keep the two areas seperate. They may even work from a intellectual framework that is godless in casting science theory. Yet in non-work hours they do allow their spiritual and physical knowledges to interact, to inform each other, to speculate. Such persons do not use cheap strawman excuses such as you suggest when a simple "We don't know." would do.

54 posted on 05/10/2005 6:05:10 AM PDT by bvw
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100 posted on 05/10/2005 7:18:11 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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