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To: PatrickHenry

You seem very defensive on the subject. I was just pointing out that a lot of science requires faith of what others have taught us. But so does most other subjects as well. History, for example. By definition it has to be passed on but a lot of people question others' take on it. I assume science could be the same. And truthfully, if you ask most Americans if they have been following the Kansas situation, I doubt there would be many who have. And what does the federal "No Child Left Behind" Act say about teaching evolution?


239 posted on 05/10/2005 9:40:37 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
You seem very defensive on the subject.

Not defensive at all. Revolted by ignorance would be far more accurate.

I was just pointing out that a lot of science requires faith of what others have taught us.

No. That's a misuse of the term "faith." Faith is belief in the absence of evidence or logical argument. Science is the opposite. Any scientific proposition can be tested. Which is quite unlike creationism and ID, I should add.

244 posted on 05/10/2005 9:45:19 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: mlc9852
I was just pointing out that a lot of science requires faith of what others have taught us. But so does most other subjects as well. History, for example. By definition it has to be passed on but a lot of people question others' take on it.

How do you know you're posting in English?

287 posted on 05/10/2005 10:35:42 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: mlc9852
I was just pointing out that a lot of science requires faith of what others have taught us.

You're using alternate definitions of the same word to try to make a point. Like the word "theory", "faith" has different meanings depending on the context.

When people say "I've got faith in modern medicine can remove this mole", they are using faith in the sense of being trustworthy.

That is far different that "faith" in a religous context which, at least in the Christian sense, is belief without proof.

You are using defintion #1 in part of your sentence and definitions 2,4,5 and 6 in the other part and then saying that the since the words are spelled the same, they must mean the same thing.

faith   Audio pronunciation of "faith" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fth)
n.
  1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
  2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
  3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
  4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
  5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
  6. A set of principles or beliefs.

Idiom:
in faith
Indeed; truly.


[Middle English, from Anglo-Norman fed, from Latin fids. See bheidh- in Indo-European Roots.]

293 posted on 05/10/2005 10:46:21 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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