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To: Petronski

I guess it would be a safe bet to assume that you own and drive a SUV. Given that assumption, I would say that it might be hard for you to put yourself in the position of people who drive normal-sized passenger cars.

From the perspective of one of those people, I can tell you that it is not true that by buying an SUV, you enjoy exclusive ownership of the roads. There are plenty of us normal-sized car drivers who also use the road, and are not happy about the proliferation of large vehicles. You may never notice it, but believe you me, the folks that drive normal-sized vehicles definitely notice when there are more SUVs on the road.

It makes a substantial difference. The more you deny it, the less likely anyone who drives a normal-sized car - to whom all I have said on the effect of SUVs on the road is self-evident - willing to listen to what you say. If SUV drivers in general had consideration and understanding of other vehicles without regard for their size, there would be no problem. But the reality is otherwise.

You construe me too literally when you think I am calling for some government agency. In literal terms I am saying that it is proven by experience that people won't drive SUVs responsibly and courteously, and that because the roads are a public utility, the right to drive a vehicle on them has to be dependent on sharing the road equitably. In Nowheresville, maybe it makes no difference what vehicle is on the roads, but in a city, or even a dense suburban area, it makes quite a large difference.

Giving everyone the free choice to drive a SUV or not is a failure. It is the same as demanding the right to drive drunk, as long as you can keep the car on the road. A a libertarian, normally I'd be right beside you complaining of government agencies, but in the case of the roads, a compromise must be enforced, not only because they are a public utility to which every citizen (and certainly those of us who pay taxes to create and maintain those roads) has an equal right, but also to preserve the freedom of travel. A person in a normal-sized car has an equal right to travel safely as a person in an SUV.


403 posted on 05/09/2005 9:47:11 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is a law.")
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To: thoughtomator

I drive a Ford Crown Vic. It's my third in a row and I'll be getting another. Unlike you, this issue is not personal to me.

Anti-SUV drivers are normally not adequately competent to handle the modern highway, and need a scapegoat for their inadequacies. The road was filled with line-of-sight-blocking vehicles long before the tinted SUV came along. The "morally suspect" SUV has not changed that.

People need to grow up and adapt to road conditions. The phrase "proven by experience" is completely nonsensical: anecdotal evidence is not proof.

The crybaby attitude of the anti-SUV crowd is beneath adult behavior. Grow up.


405 posted on 05/09/2005 9:53:13 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: thoughtomator
Just a thought but I drive a SUV (Toyota 4-Runner), a sedan (BMW 740IL) and a truck (Ford Lightening) but I don't have any vision problems in the BMW that I don't have in the others because, at least where I live, the vision (and a large part of congestion given their lack of acceleration) problems are caused by UPS/FedEx trucks, concrete trucks, gravel trucks and 18 wheelers.

Those guys are a fact of life, they pay more raod tax, they have the right to use the road just like I do, but an SUV doesn't come close to blocking vision like a big panel or box truck.

417 posted on 05/10/2005 3:49:41 AM PDT by Proud_texan (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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