"That's socialist thinking, whether you like to admit it or not. Either the market will decide, or the government will. The latter is socialist."
I'm aware. And in a philosophical debate, ignoring the nature of humans, socialism is superior to capitalism. However, people screw that all up! In most of us, the thirst for acquisition defines our drive to excel, (socialism discounts this).
However, pure capitalism is not without flaw. It is possible for the powerful to stifle innovation, and function as a monopoly, (see Microsoft).
So, there may well be room for shades of gray. I think so.
What the hell is socialism without humans? What's the point of discussing a form of human involvement and organization while trying to exclude human behavior?
That's something like saying your oven or fridge will always stay clean if you never turn it on and especially if you never put any food in it.
"socialism is superior to capitalism."
TROLL!