To: exDBinmate
Who did Rob kill? Do you know the circumstances behind it? One day I saw Rob extremely drunk in the barracks. He wasn't much of a drinker, I had never even seen him tipsy before that. The next day he was under arrest for raping and killing his sister in law. He was never an angry or violent person. What happened was a real shocker.
113 posted on
07/31/2005 2:00:57 PM PDT by
bad company
(Sam Brownback '08)
To: bad company
Amazing.
Were there any signals that he might do something like this??
117 posted on
07/31/2005 2:53:39 PM PDT by
Eaker
(My Wife Rocks!)
To: bad company; Former Military Chick
bad company,
The story of Rob is typical of many young servicemen.
I can't tell you how many similar stories I've heard from other guys confined at the DB for murder. Many were only 18, 19, 20 years old at the time of their offense. Alcohol/drugs were invariably a factor. Nothing excuses what they did but it's such a shame that they wasted the lives of their victims and forfeited their own as well in a momentary fit of drunken rage. To arrive at the DB at the age of 19 or 20, with a life sentence to serve is grim indeed. I wonder if Rob was even old enough to drink when he committed his crime? Imagine if your son was sentenced to life in Leavenworth. It must have been terrible on his family too. He ruined many lives that day.
FMC,
thanks for the other photos. You had some good aerial ones but they were apparently too old to show the hammer and sickle design incorporated into the flagpole out front. The walkway to the flagpole and flagpole itself were the same when I was there but the other walkway was different and looped around into the "sickle" shape that completed the logo. I guess it would have to be a photo from the early to mid-90's to show what I am talking about.
I remember inmates working at the commissary while I was there. It was a coveted job and I think it may have even been a paying job. I think it was stopped because inmates were fraternizing with women (or the other way around) and it was a source of contraband into the prison.
I also heard a rumor of a guard who supposedly committed suicide in one of the watchtowers. It didn't happen while I was there but was supposed to have happened many years before.
Inmates were treated for certain things at Munson Army Hospital. Your security classification dictated the type of security needed to transport you. Minimum custody inmates could be escorted with no restraints while max custody inmate would have full restraints and several escorts. The story you speak of I have no heard but it is possible that it happened. If you find out more please post. I seem to recall another thread where someone posted that his grandfather was killed by an inmate at the DB while a guard there? Perhaps there is a connection.
As for the gurneys you described used to escort the inmate afterwards, it reminds me of a practice once used at the DB called the cocoon. They would place you on an old army MASH stretcher and then place another stretcher over top of you and tape the handles and canvas together with duct tape (100 mile per hour tape). You would be in full restraints also (handcuffs, leg irons and belly chain). They would leave you like that as long as they felt like it, sometimes for 2 or 3 days. They would intermittently beat you through the stretchers and you had to lie in your own urine and feces. They would also throw the cocoon while you were in it. It was difficult to breathe and very hot. They called it behavior modification.
I don't think it necessarily modifies behavior for the good though.
You mentioned that you could have interviewed an old timer. I don't think so. The military prohibits inmates from being interviewed. I had several reporters who tried unsuccessfully to interview me over the years. A friend of mine and fellow inmate, Clayton LoneTree had tons of reporters including "60 Minutes" that wanted to interview him. They were all denied access. Having said that, I don't think there are too many pics of the inside of the DB out there. The press corps has never stepped foot inside the castle and now never will because it's been razed. I've seen a couple at www.militaryinjustice.org but that's about it. Very rare pics that you have FMC.
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