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Manfred, I went to the Men of Honor site you posted. Looks pretty good to me.

I should point out that as an attender of what many would call a "seeker sensitive" church, and one that has gone through the "40 days of Purpose", and has implemented the thrust of the "Purpose Driven Church", the church that sponsors the site, Houston North, seems to me to be a classic "seeker sensitive" church.

However, in the discussion of the "seeker sensitive" church, the following quote is made...According to Scripture--all church services are to be "believers' services". Really? Now where do you suppose Scripture says that. Where does Scripture say anything at all about "church services"?

I'm not here to argue, but every time something is posted like the original post, out comes a bunch of self-righteous, critical Christians who simply twist and misuse Scripture to negate the many ways the Holy Spirit can use to bring people to Christ.

but every time something is posted like the original post, out comes a bunch of self-righteous, critical Christians who simply twist and misuse Scripture to negate the many ways the Holy Spirit can use to bring people to Christ.

I VERY MUCH AGREE--and it still drives me to distractions.

Norge,

Good question about the assertion that church services are for believers. First, the church is simply the body of Christ. There are no pagans in the body of Christ. Acts 2 tells us "they came together in one accord" (no, this was not a Honda automobile) - meaning they were believers in Jesus. This was pentacost. Keep reading Acts - and the other letters from Paul & Peter - and you will see that lost folk who came to their services (by whatever word you want to use) were saved by the preaching of the Truth. The Apostles did not conform their teaching or doctrine to make it easy for pagan ears to hear. Pagans become saints by hearing hte Truth and being convicted of sin and falling humbly at the feet of the Lamb of God. The only accomodation made for pagans was a "oh, by the way" comment by Paul in 1 Corinthians 14 after he had forcefully told those saints to speak a few clear, understandable words rather than babble in unknown tongues. Verses 21 and following show that by speaking in a known tongue the unchanging Truth of God's Word, lost folk were convicted and fell on their face to worship Christ.

Yes, my own church is "seeker sensitive" and I am earnestly contending for the faith therein.

In all things and all ways, let the Lord God of all creation be our only guide.