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Schiavos Don't Know Where Terri's Ashes Are (Schindlers Don't Know Where Terri's Ashes Are)
AP ^ | 05-07-05

Posted on 05/07/2005 7:03:09 AM PDT by veronica

MIAMI - The family of a severely brain-damaged woman who died after her feeding tube was removed in March said Friday they still have not been told where her remains will be laid to rest.

Terri Schiavo's parents and siblings, who waged a lengthy court battle over her end-of-life wishes, said on Fox's "Hannity & Colmes" show that her husband is keeping her remains from them.

"They were supposed to tell us, and we still have not heard from ... Michael Schiavo where Terri's been laid," said Terri Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler. "Our family expected this. Michael has disobeyed court orders throughout the ordeal and continues to do so today."

Michael Schiavo is under court order to notify the Schindlers of his plans for a memorial service. He has had his wife cremated and has said her ashes would be buried at a family plot in Pennsylvania.

George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, did not immediately return a call Friday night seeking comment.

Terri Schiavo, 41, died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed by court order. She suffered brain damage in 1990 after a chemical imbalance caused her heart to stop.

She left no written instructions in the event she became disabled, and her husband said she never would have wanted to be kept alive in what court-appointed doctors called a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery.

The Schindlers, however, doubted she had any such end-of-life wishes. They maintained she would benefit from rehabilitation, despite most doctors saying her condition was irreversible


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To: theFIRMbss

You are one strange dude.


461 posted on 05/14/2005 7:07:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: EternalVigilance

So now this subject is not even up for discussion? Huh?


462 posted on 05/14/2005 7:07:56 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy

You don't 'discuss', you deride and degrade. Who do you think you're kidding?


463 posted on 05/14/2005 7:12:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cboldt
Seriously, if you trust your family to carry out your wishes, you are better off without a formal advance directive. Your family is more likely to order what you would want, and can adapt to the situation in ways an advance directive cannot.

Even in that case, you should put in your writings your wishes as to who is to make what decisions, and what they should be allowed to do. If you think you MIGHT want to be starved/dehydrated, depending upon circumstances, explicitly state that some trusted person shall have the authority to authorize that.

464 posted on 05/14/2005 8:20:02 PM PDT by supercat (Sorry--this tag line is out of order.)
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To: Hildy
NO. The truth is that something like 1% of people who sign living wills say they want to be kept alive in her condition. Based on that, I think he did the right thing.

Something over 99% of the people who order eggs for breakfast tomorrow will want to have eggs for breakfast. From that should we infer that even those people who do not order eggs for breakfast want them?

465 posted on 05/14/2005 8:27:42 PM PDT by supercat (Sorry--this tag line is out of order.)
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To: Hildy
ROFLMAO!!! Have you ever taken care of somebody 24/7??? It's going to cost alot. Believe me. And the Schiavo's couldn't handle it the first, what makes you think now that they're older they'd be able to do a better job?

A two-year-old requires closer to 24/7 care than did Terri Schiavo. Her basic care needs were: (1) have food and water adminstered, probably 3x/day; (2) have her diaper changed as needed; (3) periodically move her, change clothing and bed linens, etc.

Obviously her parents would have wanted to do more for her than that, but as far as basic care, she would require far less constant attention than a two-year-old. And many people seem to raise those just fine.

466 posted on 05/14/2005 8:36:32 PM PDT by supercat (Sorry--this tag line is out of order.)
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To: supercat

Then you haven't cared for an adult 24/7, have you? That's all asked.


467 posted on 05/14/2005 8:37:14 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: supercat; Peach; Trust but Verify
Her basic care needs were: (1) have food and water adminstered, probably 3x/day; (2) have her diaper changed as needed; (3) periodically move her, change clothing and bed linens, etc.

These people are so compassionate aren't they? Sounds more like they're taking care of a potted plant than a human being.

468 posted on 05/14/2005 8:38:48 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: supercat

If it was so easy, why couldn't they handle the first time, when they were 10 years younger than they are now?


469 posted on 05/14/2005 8:39:51 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy
Then you haven't cared for an adult 24/7, have you? That's all asked.

Some adults need constant attention to avoid having them wander places they shouldn't and injure themselves. I don't think that was really a danger with Terri, though.

470 posted on 05/14/2005 8:40:55 PM PDT by supercat (Sorry--this tag line is out of order.)
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To: Hildy
If it was so easy, why couldn't they handle the first time, when they were 10 years younger than they are now?

Because Michael said he thought she could receive better care elsewhere and they went along with it.

471 posted on 05/14/2005 8:42:07 PM PDT by supercat (Sorry--this tag line is out of order.)
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To: supercat

Oh, it's much, much more than what you described, my friend. Believe me, I've been doing it for six years. Plus, the parents couldn't handle it in 1990 for even a few weeks, what makes you think they could handle it now?


472 posted on 05/14/2005 8:42:47 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: supercat

That's a lie...that's an and out lie....they brought her home to live, and after a few weeks, they couldn't handle it.


473 posted on 05/14/2005 8:43:26 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy

I thought you said back in March that you were never posting on another Terri thread ever again.


474 posted on 05/14/2005 8:44:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: Xenalyte

I lied, sue me.


475 posted on 05/14/2005 8:45:27 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: supercat; Trust but Verify
Ya know, I was rereading your post:

A two-year-old requires closer to 24/7 care than did Terri Schiavo. Her basic care needs were: (1) have food and water adminstered, probably 3x/day; (2) have her diaper changed as needed; (3) periodically move her, change clothing and bed linens, etc.

Obviously her parents would have wanted to do more for her than that, but as far as basic care, she would require far less constant attention than a two-year-old. And many people seem to raise those just fine.

Do you think ANYONE, when asked if they'd want to live like this, would answer ABSOLUTELY. Lie there in bed all contorted, have your diapers changed, Have someone periodically move your body, change your clothes. You wouldn't be able to communicate, eat your favorite foods, read, watch TV, nothing. Maybe you can hear what's going on, maybe not. Do you think anyone would say yes to that? FOR 15 YEARS? Honestly now.

476 posted on 05/14/2005 8:52:35 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy
The answer is: it doesn't matter. Since this doesn't involve them or a loved one, it is very easy to say what should be done. The fact that somepeople, who are just super-human can do this doesn't mean everyone is physically or mentally able to. We cared for my father at his home after he became terminal with cancer. The only way we could have committeed to that intensity of care was that we knew it was going to end in weeks or months. To provide that kind of care for years, and years, and years, is not something most people are able to do.

And that doesn't even take into account the quality of the life of the patient, which is zero.

477 posted on 05/15/2005 6:18:51 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify

The people arguing for the other side don't believe in quality of life. They believe you should be kept breathing for as long as medically possible. That's where we will never agree. I can't even understand it. And as long as they keep clouding the argument by including the truly disabled into it, we'll never move on. But they minimize their position by branding as murderers everyone who has to make this most wretching of all decisions.


478 posted on 05/15/2005 7:42:39 AM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: EternalVigilance
You don't 'discuss', you deride and degrade. Who do you think you're kidding?

Since when do you Schaivo fanatics "discuss" anything but your latest conspiracies and your latest rants against the court system and Jeb Bush, etc. You immediately assume that anyone that disagrees with you is either an ignorant slut, a total moron, or a willing follower of Satan himself.

479 posted on 05/20/2005 4:21:54 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: supercat
A two-year-old requires closer to 24/7 care than did Terri Schiavo. Her basic care needs were: (1) have food and water adminstered, probably 3x/day; (2) have her diaper changed as needed; (3) periodically move her, change clothing and bed linens, etc.

But I thought they were going to provide therapeutic assistance. How are they going to afford that since they had to depend on Randall Terry to fund their legal battle? And what happens when they die. Are they going to dump Terri on their kids or the government?

480 posted on 05/20/2005 4:25:44 AM PDT by Dave S
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