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To: Junior
You haven't backed up anything. Oh,sloppy me, I missed the fact that you've backed up yourself into a pit of ignorance.

Despite any official disavowal of Darwin's theories, Soviet science subsumed and utilized the ideas. And more importantly to the point I made -- Stalin and Lenin both operated out of a poltical philsophy that was Darwinian.

Marx said "Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a natural scientific basis for the class struggle in history." Lenin and Stalin applied the brutal principles of the despotic tyranny suggested by Marx in the Manifesto.

Here's a typical section from that Manifesto chock full of Darwinistic natural science allusions and terms:

Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing [that is, competitive struggle] each other -- bourgeoisie and proletariat.

From the serfs of the Middle Ages sprang[i.e. "evoloved"] the chartered burghers of the earliest towns. From these burgesses the first elements of the bourgeoisie were developed.

Marx's theories are evolution, evolution, evolution. Classify a set of terms, that stage in time or development, and then fit a purported evolutionary dynamic between them. Without Darwin, no Marx.

Adam Smith's economics is NOT evolutionary, Marx's is ALL evolution.

Lenin and Stalin took Marx's economic and class struggles and refined them into real-politik following every example that the god-free "science" of Darwin and Huxleys could provide. Apt pupils!

90 posted on 05/08/2005 6:44:15 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Again, nice dodge. There isn't anything in your little excerpt that has anything to do with Darwin's theory of evolution. You appear to be all over the map on this one.


93 posted on 05/08/2005 6:54:04 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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