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To: Borges

"How about the Treaty of Versailles?"

The French and the Russians do seem to be the source of most of the 20th. Century's troubles, don't they? First Russia deploys its army to to attack Germany in 1914 (in those days you didn't do that for show) in defense of Serbian terrorists opposed to the rule of German ally Austria-Hungary. The Kaiser attacks France because they have a treaty to support the Russians in any war. America comes in (for reasons not in our national interest) and puts an end to it. At Versailles, the French demand the looting of German territory and "reparations" heavy enough to destroy its economy.

You know if, and this is a collosal IF, Hitler hadn't been a genocidal, racist maniac, his reaquisition of former German lands, and his war on the French and the Russians would have had my support. I have to admit, when reading accounts of the war between classy Germans like Manstein and Guderian and a loutish pig like Zhukov, I can't help but root for the Wermacht.

Unfortunately, Hitler was what he was. And what he was was just as bad as Stalin. But in terms of Roosevelt's foreign policy I have a question or two:

Why was it that the Japanese invasion of China neccesitated an economic blockade against them that precipitated their attack on us? I only ask because apart from our intervention on China's behalf, the Japanese wouldn't have given a damn about us. Sure, the Japanese murdered about a million Chinese. But Mao murdered over twenty million Chinese, and our Democrat administration wouldn't even support Chaing Kai-Shek against him in the civil war.

Further, when Stalin and Hitler simultaneously launched the war in Europe, why was Stalin not the bad guy? So everyone had to jump in and save Eastern Europe from German domination, just to hand it over to Soviet domination at the war's conclusion.

It does seem that we had a predeliction for fighting evil countries that couldn't have cared less about us, and then losing interest when even bloodier-handed communists, all of whom longed to END AMERICA at their earliest convenience, took home all the spoils. Great thinking FDR. Maybe it had something to do with so much of his administration (including V.P. Henry Wallace) being actual Soviet agents.....


57 posted on 05/05/2005 3:14:05 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Burr5
Henry Wallace apologized for having Soviet agents on his staff later on. I don't think he was one himself. He supported Nixon in 1960. But the reason Stalin wasn't the immediate bad guy in 1941 is because Hitler had already been extending into other countries whereas Uncle Joe had shown no such predilection till after the war.
60 posted on 05/05/2005 3:20:25 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Burr5
" I only ask because apart from our intervention on China's behalf, the Japanese wouldn't have given a damn about us"

The Philippine islands would of been taken regardless of our actions. They were likely next. We were also very close to China at the time. Goes back to the boxer rebellion

But I think the sanctions where the result of Jap agresssion against the US navy in China. Pearl Harbor was not the first strike. The Japs sunk one or two ships, the names escape me, and America did nothing. Thus emboldening the Japs. Kinda of like the Pacific version of the reoccupation of the Rhineland. IMO
80 posted on 05/05/2005 5:11:43 PM PDT by Wisconsin155 (newbie)
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