Non-Evo scientists.. The Evo scientists are hampered by their own DOGMA(s).. except they do argue among their congregations like protestants do of different sects.. Which dogma do YOU adhere to.?. if any.. Evos are more like Baptists.. There are many kinds of Baptists but they all agree on certain things.. but mostly on being a baptist is better than being a non-baptist.. same with Evos.. they argue on minutiae but agree that God did not create man.. at least the God of bible fame did not create him.
"Materialism says the universe is mindless; and faith says it is ruled by the highest mind. Neither will be satisfied with the new progressive creed, which declares hopefully that the universe is half-witted."-G.K. Chesterton
"It is absurd for the Evolutionist to complain that it is unthinkable for an admittedly unthinkable God to make everything out of nothing, and then pretend that it is more thinkable that nothing should turn ITself into everything."-G.K. Chesterton
Given that the Earth is part of the universe, the conclusion that the universe is "ruled by the highest mind" is manifestly ridiculous. If anything, the earth is an argument that there is no intelligent life in the universe.
"It is absurd for the Evolutionist to complain that it is unthinkable for an admittedly unthinkable God to make everything out of nothing, and then pretend that it is more thinkable that nothing should turn ITself into everything."-G.K. Chesterton
The two propositions are equally improbable. I prefer the one in which God is not insane.
"but agree that God did not create man.. at least the God of bible fame did not create him."
Wrong.
Many merely disagree with the way you chose to interepret the Bible.