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Don’t call them ‘male nurses’
Missourian ^ | 5/3/05 | Laura Hammagren

Posted on 05/03/2005 1:39:42 PM PDT by pissant

When an accident brought Drew Brown to the emergency room in January 2000, hospital workers took on new importance to him. The nurses who attended to Brown became critical players in a moment of trauma and uncertainty.

The first nurse’s indifference evoked feelings of distrust and fear. A second nurse developed a relationship with Brown that comforted him and made him feel empowered to make decisions. The impact of these differences helped Brown decide to become a nurse.

Wait. Many people would clarify that Brown decided to become a “male nurse.”

The need for this distinction hints at a gender divide in the demographics of some professions. Brown made a career choice based on personal experiences and interests — yet he still stands out as unusual.

This isn’t a new occurrence; many other cultures throughout the world have separated male and female labor. But in the United States, this continued division in some workplaces stands in stark contrast to our culture’s emphasis on individuality and equality. Nursing means more than a paycheck to Brown, a senior at MU. He said he craves the intensity and excitement of the high-pressure atmosphere of an emergency room, a nursing area with an inordinately high percentage of men.

“The challenge appeals to me, and it appeals to a lot of guys,” Brown said. “Speaking in general, men thrive in that type of environment.”

Thriving men are few in the the nursing profession.

At MU, men have constituted less than 12 percent of nursing students for the past eight years. Since 2000, they have made up less than 10 percent. This pattern extends beyond universities. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, about 6 percent of nurses in the country are male.

Organizations and schools across the nation are searching for ways to change this pattern, especially with recent nursing shortages.

The University of Missouri-Kansas City started an undergraduate nursing program three years ago, with the first class graduating this month. UMKC has made an effort to teach and prepare underrepresented groups to be successful in nursing; the UMKC School of Nursing targets blacks, Hispanics, Asians and men.

“The goal is that eventually the population of nurses mirrors the population they serve,” said Thad Wilson, associate dean for the UMKC School of Nursing.

Wilson’s background in nursing has led him to think gender roles are instilled at the beginning of adolescence.

“The visual images of nursing are so feminine that boys from sixth grade to the end of high school don’t have what it takes to declare they want to be nurses, because it’s so important to be what is considered a man,” Wilson said. “To change this, we’re going to have to reach down to these early grades.”

Brown said he has never felt any censure from the doctors and nurses he works with. But he said that some patients — especially elderly patients — seem less comfortable with his gender. And he knows people outside the medical community hold preconceived notions.

“There is a stigma with male nurses because it was viewed as a woman’s role for so long,” he said. “Men picture male nurses as someone very effeminate who is in touch with their feelings or something.”

Mark Pioli, a graduate student and assistant sociology professor at MU, has observed that women who cross gender lines are labeled as empowered, while men who cross gender lines are deemed less masculine. Part of this may be because of the definition of masculinity.

“Women have an easier time breaking into new professions because it is not unexpected for women to challenge stereotypes,” Pioli said. “Masculinity is more fragile and defined largely in terms of what is not female.”

Zach Strom, a senior in elementary education and a kicker for the MU football team, faces constant teasing about his major. In his more recent classes, there are usually one or two guys in classes of about 25 students. But for him, deciding on a career wasn’t about fitting into a definition of masculinity — it was a lot simpler.

“All the guys on the team ask me how I can stand to do this for a job when we do volunteer work at the Boys and Girls Club,” Strom said. “But I just like being around kids.”

Women are also the minority in many professions. In engineering at MU, women have made up less than 20 percent of students for the past eight years — and the numbers have steadily declined. Women have made up less than 13 percent for the past two years.

Brown plans on starting a nursing position in the Surgical Intensive Care Unit at University Hospital, working the night shift on the weekends so he can be home with his two daughters during the day. Nursing has given him confidence to make tough decisions, he said, and it has also taught him an important lesson to convey to his children.

“It’s made me really think about gender roles,” he said, “and I’m going to try really hard not to instill those in my children.”


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KEYWORDS: cary; malenurse; nurse; nursie; nursing
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To: pro libertate

Yep, I guess he was calling the intern, and not the nurse. Still one of the funniest routines ever.


61 posted on 05/03/2005 2:17:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: pissant

I keep thinking of Klinger in a nurse's uniform.


62 posted on 05/03/2005 2:18:06 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Me too, since somebody actually posted that eyesore!


63 posted on 05/03/2005 2:19:01 PM PDT by pissant (select your paddle carefully)
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To: pissant

that is nothing like any of the "male" nurses I have ever worked with!!


64 posted on 05/03/2005 2:21:49 PM PDT by markman46
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To: NonValueAdded
But it is definitely second place so I think it is a competence concern revealed by gender stereotypes.

Nursing being "second place" is really quite untrue. Unfortunately, there is a stereotype that folks that can't get into medical school nowadays just go to nursing school. I know plenty of nursing students that are just as bright as (or more so than) the medical students I attend class with. They enter nursing because they want to perform nursing, not doctoring. But as far as the importance of nursing in comparison to being a physician, I really don't think it's fair to say that. Doctors do take the responsibility of diagnosis and charting a course of treatment, but would not be able to do their jobs without nurses. Nurses are much better at a great many things than doctors are. So it's a separate but equally important vocation.

I say that as a medical student. I don't mean to be combative, I just think it's bad that that perception exists.

65 posted on 05/03/2005 2:23:07 PM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan; pissant

Hey!
I love to tell stories about being the "female" pilot.
I have TONS of them....

Quick one... I was flying to Las Vegas with a group of girlfriends' for a Girls Weekend. When we landed the fuel truck came over to welcome us and ask if we needed fuel.

He was watching these women unloading luggage from the airplane and kept asking us "Where's the pilot?!!!"
You mean the BOY PILOT? HA HA HA!!!

We told him we decided we didn't need him and dumped him out over an hour ago.

Here's your MCP sign.... and thanks for playing our little game today!

;-)


66 posted on 05/03/2005 2:24:15 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan; pissant
Male nurse stands...it's just a frickin' weird profession for a guy.

There are quite a few male nurses in trauma centers. There are some pretty scary people who come into emergency rooms. Male nurses aren't as easily intimidated by them.

67 posted on 05/03/2005 2:24:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: newgeezer

68 posted on 05/03/2005 2:25:33 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan

Personally I think, that if they changed the name "nurse" to something else, alot more men would get into the profession. Whenever I hear the word "nurse" I automatically think of the WWII nurse with the skirt and funny hat. And another thing, RN's do not clean bedpans.


69 posted on 05/03/2005 2:25:57 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: pissant

HEY!!!

I'm not snotty - except when I have a cold.

;-)


70 posted on 05/03/2005 2:26:12 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: NorthGA
100 years ago - secretaries were men. Society was not sure women could do a satisfactory job as a secretary.

That was not always the case. G.K. Chesterton was not big on female secretaries because he thought they would give the job too MUCH attention and take it much too seriously.

Pope Leo XIII (late 19th century) was not big on mixed-sex environments in the workplace, as it had the propensity to break up marriages. (Hmmmm... has a female secretary ever broken up a marriage?)
71 posted on 05/03/2005 2:26:21 PM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

GREAT picture....

That will cure just about anything....

;-)


72 posted on 05/03/2005 2:26:54 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: colorcountry
My over 300 pound MIL just had knee surgery. It took 3 male nurses to lift her. I don't know how many female nurses is would have taken.

All of them....

73 posted on 05/03/2005 2:28:28 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: pissant

Who would do that?

Horrible....


74 posted on 05/03/2005 2:29:46 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: Husker24

Yeah, they'd have to change the name but I still think it would take a generation or two to stop the giggles.

I certainly see where male nurses are useful, but myself, I wouldn't be comfortable with one (especially with a recent local scandal here of a male nurse raping over 100 patients during his time at a hospital)


75 posted on 05/03/2005 2:32:39 PM PDT by SweetPilotofCanuckistan
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To: Dashing Dasher

feminists!


76 posted on 05/03/2005 2:34:57 PM PDT by pissant (select your paddle carefully)
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To: Dashing Dasher
My over 300 pound MIL just had knee surgery. It took 3 male nurses to lift her. I don't know how many female nurses is would have taken. All of them..

That is why most OR's have attendants. Moving someone really large is a group effort.

77 posted on 05/03/2005 2:40:41 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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To: pissant

Where?



78 posted on 05/03/2005 2:41:20 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: pissant; AQGeiger

I've often thought the shortage of nurses could be at least partially fixed by changing what they're called. The problem that won't go away is that "nursing" means two different things in our language, and when applied to a medical assistant, will always still evoke conscious or unconscious thoughts of a woman with a baby at her breast. Little wonder most young men scoff at the idea of choosing this as a profession.


79 posted on 05/03/2005 2:43:07 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: anniegetyourgun

Agreed. Why hasn't some male nurse sued over the inherent gender discrimination in the job title? We now have firefighters, letter carriers, flight attendants, chairpersons (or increasingly often, the simpler "chair"), but nurses are still called nurses.


80 posted on 05/03/2005 2:46:44 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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