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United States Attacked [by Val Kilmer]: 'Batman' Says American Audiences Ignorant & Illiterate
NY Post ^ | 5/2/5 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 05/02/2005 7:27:03 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: gopwinsin04

Brilliant actor, but nutty as hell.


142 posted on 05/02/2005 10:35:48 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: brazzaville
I guess you haven't seen Tombstone or Heat, have you.

Val Kilmer was great in those movies. Val with Ashley Judd as his wife were great in Heat. Also was very good in "The Saint" and "The Doors" You can count me as a fan. He's always said flaky things and is sort of a flake

143 posted on 05/02/2005 10:44:38 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: durasell

I liked Spartan. I heard that Kilmer convinced Kevin Spacey to become an actor. (now he's good!)


144 posted on 05/02/2005 10:45:27 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: gopwinsin04
Val Kilmer-in London to star onstage in 'The Postman Always Rings Twice'--has been trashing Americans, saying they are ignorant and illiterate.

Well, *WE* are smart enough not to screw up our meal ticket.

145 posted on 05/02/2005 10:46:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: dennisw

On the upside, he's one of the few deeply religious actors in Hollywood.


146 posted on 05/02/2005 10:46:51 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: monkapotamus

Kilmer is a little younger than Spacey and I think Spacey was one of those kids who always took acting lessons. Kilmer, on the other hand, went to Julliard at a young age -- hence, the "Julliard Effect."


147 posted on 05/02/2005 10:49:10 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

By DANA KENNEDY
New York Times
April 21, 2002


The first sign that Val Kilmer may be a little eccentric comes early. He is registered at his Midtown Manhattan hotel under the first name of his younger brother Wesley, who drowned 25 years ago.

Mr. Kilmer is startled when asked in an interview about his alias. "It's a great name," he says slowly. "A family name."

Despite the passage of time, Mr. Kilmer, 42, is still haunted by his brother's death. "He was a genius," Mr. Kilmer says of Wesley, who was 15 and an aspiring filmmaker when he died. His brother was so talented, Mr. Kilmer says, he could have been another Steven Spielberg or George Lucas.

Mr. Kilmer's wistful feelings about his brother sometimes eerily mirror the plot of Mr. Kilmer's new movie, "The Salton Sea," which opens on Friday. He plays a man whose life is changed forever by witnessing his wife's murder at the hands of thugs involved in the crystal methamphetamine trade. The killing takes place near the Salton Sea, a sprawling and spooky saline lake in the Southern California desert.

In the film, Mr. Kilmer's widower becomes a police informant who infiltrates the sordid and violent drug world of the so-called tweakers in an effort to avenge his wife's death. Feeling guilty that he could not save his wife, the man, Danny Parker, is also seeking personal redemption.

"There are several points in the movie where the guy just can't go on," Mr. Kilmer says. "I didn't really get back to earth until about two or three years after my brother died. It's like that Nickelback song, `I'm sick of sight without the sense of feeling.' "

By the end of the film, it's clear whether Parker has made peace with himself. The same cannot be said of Mr. Kilmer.

A character actor with leading-man looks, he is remembered for some powerful performances. He nearly upstaged Tom Cruise as Mr. Cruise's cocky nemesis "Iceman" Kazansky in "Top Gun (1986), delivered 15 songs during his uncanny portrayal of the self-destructive rock star Jim Morrison in "The Doors" (1991) and stole scene after scene as the dying, dyspeptic Doc Holliday in "Tombstone" (1993).

Mr. Kilmer has starred in blockbusters like "Batman Forever" (1995) as well as small, independent films like "Joe the King" (1999), in which he played a paunchy, abusive alcoholic, a role he took on as a favor to his friend, the movie's novice director, Frank Whaley.

Unlike the famously affable Mr. Cruise, however, Mr. Kilmer developed a reputation for being difficult, which in recent years has overshadowed his acting ability.

In 1996, Entertainment Weekly ran a cover story on Mr. Kilmer titled "The Man Hollywood Loves to Hate." The directors Joel Schumacher and John Frankenheimer said it had been difficult to work with him. Mr. Schumacher, who directed him in "Batman Forever," once called Mr. Kilmer "one of the most psychologically troubled people I've ever worked with." Mr. Frankenheimer, who clashed with him on the set of the 1996 movie "The Island of Dr. Moreau," has said there were two things he would never do: "Climb Mount Everest and work with Val Kilmer again."

And yet Mr. Kilmer hardly lives up to that reputation during the two-hour interview in his hotel room before the release of his new film. He is friendly, buoyant and so open that he often volunteers personal details about his life and is quick to laugh at himself.

Still, Mr. Kilmer seems prone to philosophical ramblings. He segues with ease, for instance, from what it was like to meet real-life crystal meth addicts as part of his research, to why Communism failed in Tanzania. "I'll try not to digress," Mr. Kilmer says at one point, before digressing.

For all the criticism he's known, Mr. Kilmer does have high-powered supporters among the people he has worked with, like Jeffrey Katzenberg, the co-founder of DreamWorks (in "The Prince of Egypt"), and the directors Michael Mann ("Heat") and Phillip Noyce ("The Saint").

D. J. Caruso, 36, who makes his directorial debut with "The Salton Sea," says he would gladly work with Mr. Kilmer again but admits that "you have to learn to speak Val."

Vincent D'Onofrio, who plays a cocaine-crazed drug kingpin named Pooh Bear in the film, calls the reports that Mr. Kilmer is difficult "nonsense."

"Every time someone warns me about some actor who's difficult, they turn out to be the most talented one on the set," he says.

Mr. Caruso says he had made it a point to understand Mr. Kilmer: "There were times when we'd have to have two- to three-hour discussions in his trailer over a scene. Val requires a director's attention. He wants you to say which pair of pants you like. I had one objective, to get the movie done well, and I would do whatever was required."

He adds: "Val needs to immerse himself in a character. I think what happened with directors like Frankenheimer and Schumacher is that Val would ask a lot of questions, and a guy like Schumacher would say, `You're Batman! Just go do it.' "

Mr. Caruso apparently won Mr. Kilmer's trust. "Val is haunted by his past, about his brother and the accident and stuff with his parents," Mr. Caruso says. "We had long talks about it."

Mr. Kilmer says his relationship with his father, a real estate developer, was sometimes strained. Eugene Kilmer and his wife divorced when Val was 9. "I think he appreciated and loved more readily my younger's brother's talent," Mr. Kilmer says. This even though Mr. Kilmer, who began acting in commercials at 12, was one of the youngest students ever accepted into the drama department at the Juilliard School.

Mr. Kilmer is a man of contrasts. His reputation is that of a Hollywood bad boy, but he is such a doting father to his two children by his former wife, the British actress Joanne Whalley, that he made the cover of Dads magazine in 2000. A lifelong Christian Scientist, he says has never been to a doctor except to have the physical examinations required for movie roles. But Mr. Kilmer can contradict himself.

IN a 1999 interview with Icon magazine, he said he had never used drugs because he was too "sensitive" for them. During the interview for this article, however, he says he almost died once from drug use, when he was a student. "I say `almost' died,' " he says. "I think I would have." He won't say what drug he was using.

Mr. Kilmer credits a Christian Science practitioner with helping him survive and says he has avoided drugs since then.

Mr. Kilmer's response to the directors' complaints about him is also mixed. At the start of the interview, without any prompting, Mr. Kilmer says he was "naïve" in the past and could have perhaps done things differently.

But for the most part he denies being difficult and calls the accusations a "total lie." He says a lot of the grievances stemmed from jealousy. He maintains that friends of his former wife fed Entertainment Weekly damaging information because he was going through a divorce and that they wanted to make it hard for him to get custody of his children. Now on good terms, he and Ms. Whalley share custody of their children, who divide their time between their mother's house in Los Angeles and Mr. Kilmer's ranch in New Mexico.

Mr. Kilmer is almost sanguine about some of the unpleasant things said about him, but he seems taken aback when asked why he thought Ron Howard, known as one of Hollywood's most genial directors, called him "immature" and "frustrating" to work with during the filming of the children's fantasy movie, "Willow," in 1987.

"Poor Ron," Mr. Kilmer says. "I bet he regrets it. I bet he would not say the same thing about me now. Call him up because I bet he'd take the call now that he's worked with Russell Crowe." A spokesman for Mr. Howard said he was on vacation and not available for comment.

Like Mr. Crowe, Mr. Kilmer immerses himself in research for every role, and "The Salton Sea" was no exception. He befriended a crystal meth addict who is also a police informant and videotaped him during a three-hour interview while the informant was high on the drug.

Mr. Kilmer was also helped by what he calls "synchronicities." The movie was shot on location in Indio, Calif., a desert town south of Palm Springs, where Mr. Kilmer spent time as a child. (He was born Val Edward Kilmer in Los Angeles.) Other scenes were filmed near what had been his father's home, in Chatsworth.

The coincidences and the memory of his brother's death and its effect on him and his family enriched his interpretation of the grief-stricken Danny Parker, Mr. Kilmer says. Wesley Kilmer drowned in a swimming pool in 1977, and Eugene Kilmer died in 1993.

"I don't think my dad wanted to die" — after Wesley's death — "but living was a lot more difficult," Mr. Kilmer says. "Not to minimize my family's experience, but in `The Salton Sea,' that is the core of the story. This man is locked into that time."

Mr. Kilmer may not be over the pain of his brother's death, but he says he doesn't dwell on the sadness of it. "Death is an opportunity to understand about life," he says. "I miss him and miss his things. I have his art up. I like to think about what he would have created. I'm still inspired by him."

New York Times, Arts & Leisure, April 2002


148 posted on 05/02/2005 10:49:45 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

And hopefully it'll live up to the trailers and we can finally bury all the bad Batman we've had to suffer to this point (the animated series being an exception). I will say that Keaton made a better-than-expected Batman, but I didn't like the direction Burton took.


149 posted on 05/02/2005 10:53:07 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: dennisw

How'd you like to be on a set with Val Kilmer and Oliver Stone? How about Kilmer and Brando?

Now, tell me producers don't have a dark sense of humor.


150 posted on 05/02/2005 10:54:35 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

My pick would to be on the set of "Heat" watching Michael Mann direct Robert Deniro, Val Kilmer, Ashley Judd and the rest of the great actors who all put in more than credible performances


151 posted on 05/02/2005 10:57:49 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: tfecw
Val Kilmer isn't Batman. Adam West err Michael Keaton is.

No, Kevin Conroy, voice actor of Bruce Wayne/Batman for the last 13 years, from Batman: The Animated Series to Justice League Unlimited to Batman Beyond, is Batman...

152 posted on 05/02/2005 10:58:15 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: durasell

Yeah Brando and KIlmer made some kind of disaster called "Island of DR Moreau"


153 posted on 05/02/2005 10:59:07 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: dennisw

If Heat had a problem (and don't get me wrong, I like it) it was the fact that Mann didn't direct DeNiro. On the other hand, Pacino gives an outstanding performance.


154 posted on 05/02/2005 11:01:21 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: dennisw

Watch Island of Moreau again. There's a scene that's priceless. When all hell breaks loose on the island, Kilmer begins making public address anouncements via the p.a. system. It's a dead on immitation of Brando in Apocalypse Now. Then when he stands up, you see this pillow fall out from under his shirt...the entire scene is a "beat up on Brando" move.


155 posted on 05/02/2005 11:03:24 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

I think you're saying Robert DeNiro diretced himself in "Heat". For all I know, that may be. Al Pacino's pouty little wife in that movie put in a great performance


156 posted on 05/02/2005 11:04:46 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: gopwinsin04

This is particularly funny coming from "Val Kilmer" because HE is the ONE actor in Hollywood whose success
I just don't understand. He keeps getting cast year after year in big movies, yet I don't know or have even heard of A SINGLE PERSON who could be considered part of the Val Kilmer "following". This is a really interesting phenomenon worth looking into. Think about it, and you'll have to conclude I'm right. Can anyone come up with any more of this weird breed I can only call "mystery stars"?


157 posted on 05/02/2005 11:07:11 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: dennisw

DeNiro came off like a blank in that movie. So much so that going after the bad guy at the end seemed out of character. Pacino, the wife, and even the kid gave great performances. There's a speech he gives about the house and drug use, etc. that's a classic.


158 posted on 05/02/2005 11:07:41 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: willyboyishere

You're 180 degrees wrong. He's a very talented actor, but can't get big parts and the giant pay checks because of his nuttiness.


159 posted on 05/02/2005 11:09:29 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Baynative

Great film. Why do you suppose Holliday refused to shake Behan's hand?


160 posted on 05/02/2005 11:10:47 PM PDT by onedoug
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