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To: AnAmericanMother
I cannot beleive that there were not other sources than American cardinals' and bishops' "paper" reports about homosexuality in the priesthood in America during JPII's pontificate. It is the responsibility of the pope to find out--really find out what is going on in the church worldwide. I refuse to believe that he was not made aware of this problem. OK. I am simply not going to believe it.

Also, the claim about hesitation to believe reports of rampant homosexuality in the priesthood in America , due to his experience in communist poland, can only go so far. In the end, it is only a figleaf.

JPII had 24 years to appoint all the bishops and cardinals in the world. Please dont tell me that he let that opportunity go by and indiscriminately appointed homosexual bishops nad cardinals to those posts. If that is what is being said, I am in despair about the future of the Roman Catholic Church. Are they trying to say that even the church's saviours became enfeebled by diffidence in the face of such evils?!!

There must be a different and deeper reason for not fixing the American hierarchy during his pontificate. BTW, I do not know that the hierarchy was not fixed. Up until today, I thought that JPII was working behind the scenes to appoint only good and strong people to these positions. Now, we are told he had an idiotic diffidence which doomed his appointments ---for 24 years!!!!!

I don't know whether to be skeptical of this report or to just give up hoping that anything can be done.

My point is that this very "figleaf" is insidious and malicious about JPII. I hope it is not true. It reminds me about what used to be said about Germans who did nothing or worse during the Nazizeit: "They were naive politically."

344 posted on 05/03/2005 9:17:49 AM PDT by ontos-on
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To: ontos-on

I share your skepticism--not least because Jack Wheeler, the reporter on this case, is not known as a reliable Vatican-reporter (to say the least.)


348 posted on 05/03/2005 9:22:30 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ontos-on
OK, I'm going to call Godwin's Law on you. You have officially lost the argument. BTW, simple refusal to believe is not an argument.

You're not hearing what I'm saying anyway. Hope you never have a position of administrative responsibility where you rely on your subordinates for an accurate report of what's going on, because you just made yourself responsible for everything they do, even if some of them are deliberately hiding stuff from you.

351 posted on 05/03/2005 9:27:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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