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To: netmilsmom

"Communion is given on the tongue with the host dipped in the Precious Blood. Kneeling."

Good. Avoids the problem. Know anywhere else like this in the U.S.?

"Our pastor believes that a priest should not be sleeping (we have four) while EMCs are handing out the Eucharist."

Good.

"Normally, we receive from a priest or a deacon. Only during the holidays are EMCs used."

Good. The letter of the law is being followed. The Latin Mass I attend NEVER has the need for EMCs, on holidays or otherwise. Never needed them prior to Vatican II either. I wonder why.

"We have 200 (yes, 200! Our parish was mentioned on EWTN for this) Altar BOYS. We have Choir Girls and Altar Boys. Problem solved."

Good. Accept that it is not a "problem" as such. Ideally, the schola is all male as well, as music is a "ministry" in the Church and only MEN can serve as "minister" according to Catholic discipline and doctrine. However, even some Traddie parishes allow women to sing when there are not enough men to volunteer.


340 posted on 05/03/2005 8:59:47 AM PDT by Mershon
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To: Mershon
Ideally, the schola is all male as well, as music is a "ministry" in the Church and only MEN can serve as "minister" according to Catholic discipline and doctrine

I think that PiusXII's Musicae Sacrae Disciplina made a change in the definitions involved here.

IIRC, the Pope tightened the definition of orders to exclude those singing in the choir--meaning that using women in your basic parish choir was OK (blessing, after the fact, the common practice.)

That change was applied to 'acolytes,' changing the previous "all-male" requirement and effectively downgrading them to 'lay ministers.'

IOW, your use of the term "ministry" is inaccurate, and your conclusions are not within canonical definitions.

Further, there's no "doctrine" involved in the question anymore.

345 posted on 05/03/2005 9:20:53 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Mershon

>>Good. Accept that it is not a "problem" as such. Ideally, the schola is all male as well, as music is a "ministry" in the Church and only MEN can serve as "minister" according to Catholic discipline and doctrine. However, even some Traddie parishes allow women to sing when there are not enough men to volunteer.<<

Not having Altar Girls is a problem for some people. For me, the mother of girls, I see nothing wrong with it.
I believe that boys have been so marginalized in our society that giving them a special place is not only right but needed. Altar Boys become Priests, not Altar Girls.
The discussion comes where there are not enough boys to serve. This was never a problem in my home parish in Cleveland (although I have heard it is different now) nor my parish now.
Our pastor leans down to the little boys and says, "How old are you?"
If the boy says, "Three." Father tells him that next year he can be an Altar Boy!
The older boys help the younger ones. It is a beautiful sight to see!
Even at the 6am Holy Mass on weekdays, we have Altar Boys.

As for any other parish being like this, I'm looking HARD! We would like to move back to Cleveland, but leaving this parish would be very tough. One of the FReepers told me there is a parish with Latin and Greek in Northern Ohio. If we move back we will go there.
Next month, my daughter's First Communion party is back home. We will go to Holy Mass at that parish and see what it is like.


355 posted on 05/03/2005 9:40:35 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Pope B16-Smacking down Heresy since 1981! God Bless him!)
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